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NOTES AND QUERIES. [9* s. ix. JAN. n, 1902.
nepos possibly of Maurice, Bishop of London
whose rather uncommon Christian name w
find used by William's descendants. Williai
was called " de Londonia," and gave the tithe
of Eastgarston to Herley Priory ('Form. Angl
p. 252). Madox had the original before him
which was endorsed in an old hand "Cart
Willelmi de Londoniis." Maurice, his son
was a witness. It is not improbable :
was a sister of William who married Hare
ing fil. Eadnoth (see 6 th S. ii. 11), and wa
mother of Robert fitz Harding, the founde
of Bristol Abbey, Maurice, and other sons
Robert, in conjunction with a William d
London, gave Blacksworth, in Kingswood, t
the abbey. It should be further rioted tha
Robert called his eldest son Maurice, whic
has continued to be the favourite name of th
Berkeley family ever since.
William de London was one of the knight who went with Robert fitz Hamon into Gla morganshire, founded Ewenny Priory, anc was a donor to Neath and Kid welly, &c.
Thomas de London, a contemporary who may have been another son, went into Scot land with King David, and had a grant o Leased wyn. He left a son Maurice, and it i this circumstance that makes me think he was one of this family. Of course much more about the Londons of Ogmore and Kid well j is known, but these notes and suggestions may be enough for MR. A. HALL'S purpose.
A. S. ELLIS. Westminster.
BIBLIOGRAPHY OF THE BICYCLE (9 th S viii 304 490, 530). -The following obiter dicta might appropriately fall under the head of
Wrong forecasts by Eminent Men,' but as they may not have come under the notice of some of your readers who are interested in the subject the reference may be worth ad- vancing. They are thus related by Bransby J. Cooper m the ' Life of Sir Astley Cooper' (vol. 11. p. 309) :
"One morning our visitor was Prof. Vince of Cambridge and my uncle almost immediately began to talk to him upon the subject of these velocipedes The doctor said he had heard of them and admitted the ingenuity of the contrivance. This induced
from the 7 * * 1 ^T aU ^ fe * *ug 'it wi 1 F Ti Un ;, ve 7 al employment. 'Sir,' said he* it will alter the face of the country : no grass wil be grown but all farms will become arable] for wh
r wo
vl ichd ' m f hme can be substituted
and the f! ? ?i Or ? than tW r three pounds ' ^H if fi (8t outlay is the whole expense?' 'Sir' said Mr. Vince, 'I misunderstood you; the exie-
extend of 'a T^f^ I merely JmitU to t'he eSif i l Y i' for j lb can ncvcr facilitate or trarv n P len t . hene d Journey. It would be con-
could for Tt y - aX - m ln .^hematics to s PPose it nd, tor it is impossible by any mechanism to
increase your velocity without diminishing your
power; and as, in this instance, the power emanates
from the employer, he would soon become too happy
to be satisfied with the speed of his natural pro-
gression, and glad to cease exhausting himself by
sustaining an additional weight to his own body.
In two months you will hear no more of them.' "
These opinions were expressed in or about 1823. RICHARD LAWSON.
Urmston.
WILLIAM THE CONQUEROR'S HALF BROTHERS AND SISTERS (9 th S. viii. 199, 293, 525). Robert, Earl of Mortain, did not found the abbey of St. Evroult, where Orderic Vital was, also called Ouche. He founded, with the Countess Matilda, his wife, in 1082, the collegiate church of St. Evroult at Mortain. I did not make this clear in my previous com- munication. F. S. VADE-WALPOLE.
fStagbury, Banstead.
THE SIGNATURE OF THE DUKE OF CAM- BRIDGE (9 th S. viii. 525). MR. CHARLES HIATT says he has the duke's signature "Cambridge." This was probably written by his equerry, as I have it; certainly not by the duke himself.
The Prince of Wales, if he follows his father's precedent, will sign " George, P."
A. F. T.
HYMN* ANCIENT AND MODERN ' (9 th S. viii.
101, 230, 388). It is quite true that W. C. B.'s
criticism "hardly meets the point" of my
lote, but much of MR. PHINN'S is equally
rrelevant. I do riot see why, as regards
grammar, original hymns and translations
houlcl not be " measured by the same tests."
A translator ought no more to retain foreign
constructions than foreign words. It is
mfortunately true, as the late Mr. Palgrave
amented in a note on this subject which I
md from him many years ago, that translated
lymns, like all translated verse, are "rarely
ffective as poetry." Sometimes, indeed, they
are, for Mr. Palgrave himself, in an essay on
lymns in Good Words, once named one of
Miss Winkworth's translations' Christ will
gather in His own 'as worthy to stand be-
ide Newman's 'Lead, kindly Light,' but then
ie had forgotten the fact that it is a trans-
ation. All this, however, is again away from
be point, as is also MR. PHINN'S remark that
n original compositions why not in transla-
lons too? many phrases such as those of
vhich he cites examples may be tolerated,
Ithough they are usually disallowed in
ublic worship. My point is simply that on
nich John Wesley laid such stress that
ymns for general use ought to have not
nly "the purity, the strength, and the
