If you went back should you keep on your English Clothes or go back to the Dress of your Tribe?
- If I go to New Zealand I put off English Clothes, because they will be soon worn out, and I cannot get others; but if I am with English People I wear English Clothes.
Do you think the other New Zealand People would do so too?
- I think so; that they would like them.
Do you think if a Captain told a New Zealander he would give him Powder or Blankets to bring back a runaway Sailor he would do it?
- If a Man were to run away, if a Captain came and offered Powder, or Musket, or a Blanket, the Chief would go and bring the Man back again for it.
Are there not a great many Whites where you live?
- Many at Cloudy Bay, and all round New Zealand.
Are there not many Grog Shops now in Cook's Straits and Queen Charlotte's Sound?
- Yes. There are Mr. Barrow and Mr. Warren keep Grog Shops, like others.
Do they sell Grog for Whalebone?
- Yes.
Do you know Mana?
- It is there.
In Cook's Straits?
- Yes.
Does it belong to your Tribe?
- Yes.
Mr. Barrow of Sydney bought Mana, did not he?
- Yes.
Did he give a large Gun for it?
- Yes.
Did Mr. Barrow marry your Sister, Popeora?
- Yes.
They have a Child, have not they?
- Yes, they have.
Does Mr. Ross live at Mana, to take care of Mr. Barrow's Ships?
- Yes.
Does he grow Wheat?
- Yes; and Potatoes, Tobacco, Cabbage, and Peaches.
Do you know Kapiti or Entry Island in Cook's Straits?
- Yes.
Does Raupero live there?
- Yes.
There are plenty of Convicts at Kapiti, are there not?
- Plenty.
Do not the Men who live there buy Flax of New Zealand People?
- Yes.
Did you ever see any Convicts come in with Irons on the Leg?
- No, I never did. If they come on board Ship they get the Sailors to cut them off.
When Men came with Irons on their Legs to New Zealand did the New Zealand People understand what that was for?
- They know they were bad Men.
There are Slaves whom you call Cookees there, are there not?
- Yes; I have a Cookee.
A Cookee's Child is not a Cookee?
- No. I have a Cookee; if he marries a Gentlewoman the Child is a Gentleman, and no Cookee.
Cookees are Prisoners of War?
- Yes.
Are there many Cookees belonging to your Tribe?
- Yes. My Tribe is not a very large Tribe, but many Cookees; they have been in many Countries.
Your Tribe have many War Canoes?
- Yes.
You do not know how many?
- I do not. We New Zealand People do not know how many there are of a Thing.
Is there a good deal of Land uncultivated in the South as well as in the North Islands?
- A great deal in both Islands, there is.
