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connection with that engagement?

Q. In connection with that engagement.

A. Not that I specifically recall.

Q. Did you communicate with Mr. Steele other than through these memos? Did you have phone calls and e-mails with him?

A. Mostly we spoke by phone.

MR. FOSTER: You did also e-mail with him?

MR. SIMPSON: Nothing — I don't believe I had anything substantive. E-mail security is a major problem. So, generally speaking, we would try to communicate telephonically on an encrypted line.

MR. FOSTER: Did you have another method of communicating with him via text.

MR. SIMPSON: I mean, we used encrypted methods of communicating. Part of the security concern we have involve there's been a lot of attempts to break into our systems. So I prefer not to get into a lot of that, but suffice to say we use secured encrypted systems.

MR. FOSTER: Regardless of the details of how you did, do you retain copies of written communications that you may have engaged with him through some other secure method?

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