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an American. And issues of Russian criminal operations with names like Booktrap and Maddel (phonetic) rings a bell to me or did ring a bell to me at the time. There's been a great deal — there had been a great deal at this time even of U.S. law enforcement activity against organized Russian cyber crime operations.

Q. And this memo which is dated 26 July — it actually bears the date 2015.

A. I noticed that.

Q. Is that just, as far as you understand it, a typo or mistake? Was it actually 2016?

A. Yes.

Q. Then similarly with what I have -- and I'm just doing it in the order that it was Bates-stamped and appeared on BuzzFeed — there's a two-page report and it bears the Bates Nos. 41397 and 41398 and it has a company report number 2016/095.This one has the title "Russia/U.S. Presidential Election, Further Indications of Extensive Conspiracy Between Trump's Campaign Team and the Kremlin."

Did you do any independent verification of these facts?

A. I did some work on aspects of this. We

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