make unlawful and unconstitutional attacks. Now, shall it be held by you that the police, like the kings of old, can do no wrong, because forsooth, there happens to be here upon this trial eight poor men, eight workingmen, eight men without money or friends? Are we to be offered up and immolated as a sacrifice upon the altar of Mammon to satisfy the vindictive hatred and greed of the monopolists of this city? For that is the sum total of what it amounts to, your honor.
Q. "How should they defend themselves? Was anything said about dynamite?"
A. "No; as well as anyone could, if anyone had anything with him."
Q. "How long were you at Greif's Hall on that Monday night previous to the Haymarket meeting?" (This is Schroeder.)
A. "Three-quarters of an hour."
Q. "What was discussed there?"
A. "If the police made an attack upon the workmen"—now, your honor, keep this in mind: the prosecution has tried to make out that there was a meeting held; that there was a conspiracy entered into, and that it was resolved upon to atack the police. Their own witnesses here, their own testimony, shows that there was nothing of the kind intended—"if the police made an attack upon the workmen they would help the workmen to help themselves."
Q. "Was anything said about bombs?"
A. "No."
Q. "At any of the meetings?"
A. "No; not while I was present."
Q. "Well, while you were present at the Monday night meeting they talked about how they would help the workmen defend themselves?"
A. "Yes, sir."
Q. "And nothing was said about throwing bombs on Monday night, or at any other time?"
A. "No."
Q. "Was it not talked about throwing bombs at the Haymarket meeting?"
A. "No; not while I was there."
Q. "Then it was talked about throwing dynamite to destroy the police at the next meeting at the Haymarket?"
A. "There was nothing said about it while I was there."
Q. "You went to the Haymarket meeting?"
A. "Yes, sir; I was in a saloon when the bomb exploded."
Q. "Did you go there with any dynamite in your pocket?"
A. "I don't know what dynamite is; don't know dynamite."
Q. "Did you know there would be trouble at that meeting?"
A. "Well, I know that much, that when the police should attack the workingmen that each one should help themselves as best they could."
Q. "At the time you left the meeting, the meeting was quiet and peaceable?"
A. "Yes."
And this is the testimony, your honor, which was relied upon to prove a conspiracy on my part. Now, I did not belong to this meeting; I did not
