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116 LISLE. Barony. ;J and 1. Elizabeth, sua jure Baroness Lisle, only surv. II [ 1475 became u y the death s.p. in or before 1475 of her only sister ' ' (Margaret, wife of Sir George Vere) sole heir to her father, and, as Viscountoy. sueh was (being also in possession of the manor of Kingston Lisle) ml a titled to the Barony of Lisle under the terms of its creation in 146.3. 1444, she m. Sir Edward Grey, 2d s. of Edward (Grey), Lord Ferrers de Grory by Elizabeth, ttto jure Baroness Ferrers de Groby. He was, accordingly cr. by patent( :l ) 11 March 1471/5, LORD AND BAUON OF LISLE (" Dominum ct Uaronem ilc Lisle ") with rein, to his heirs by the said Elizabeth, his wife, being possessed of the manor of Kingston Lislef') with a clause (as in the patent of 1-144) of the ancient precedency.^) About eight years subsequently, having distinguished himself in the wars with France, he was, cr. 28 June 14S3, VISCOUNT LISLE with the usual limitation to heirs male of his body, but " with place and precedence of Thomas Talbot, late Viscount Lisle."{ 1 ') He was bearer of the Rod with the Dove at the Coronation of Richard III., 7 July 1483. ( e ) His wife the suo jure Baroness 8 Sep. 14S7, anil was bur. at Astley, co. Warwick. He m. secondly, Jane, widow of Sir Robert Drope, Lord Mayor of London (1 17 4-75), whod. 21 Jan. 1487- He d, 17 July 1492 and was bur. at Astley afsd. Will pr. 26 Aug. 1492. His widow was but. (with her first husband) at St. Michael's, Corn- hill. Will dat. 8 Aug 1499, pr. 21 May 1500. Visoountcy. 2 and J h John (Grey), Viscount Lisle [1483], and IV 1492 Baron Lisle [1414 and 1475], only s. and h., b. 1 1S1 ; sue. to the . ' Viscountoy, &c, 17 July 1492, having, possibly, been entitled juie matris to the Barony [1444] since her death in 14S7 ; K.B., 10U4. 18 Felj 1503 He „ u Jlmfe), *b ^ Thomas (Howard), 2d Duke Barony 0F Norfolk, by his first wife, Elizabeth, da. and h. of Sir Frederick Tilney. He d. s.p.m. 9 Sep. (20 Hen. VII.), 1504, when the IV. 1492. riscouutei/ of Lisle again became extinct. Will dat. 0 Sep. 1504. His widow )it. Sir Thomas Knyvett, K.B., of Buckenham, Norfolk, who d. between 15 Aug. and 13 Dec. 1512. She was bur. in the Friar's church at Greenwich 1512. Will dat. 13 Dec. 1512, pr. 12 Jan. 1512/3. [p. 191, et seq.], the case is most ably stated, and to it he refers in support of the following conclusions; 1st, that the patent to John Talbot in 1114 did not (though evidently intended so to do) affect the Barony created by the writ to Gerard de L'Isle [1357], 31 Ed. 1 1 1., and which consequently still remained in abeyance, but created a new Barony, descendible according to the provisions of the patent ; and 2ndly, with respect to the extremely difficult question, ' In whom is that Bavony now vested '{ ' it is to be observed that, according to the high authority of Lord Chief Justice Coke [Co. Lift., 27], and of Justice lilackstone [Commentaries, vol. ii, p. 109], John Talbot and his heirs, under the patent, had onli/ a base or quulijied fee in that dignity, and ' that the instant he or his heirs quitted the seigniory of this manor the dignity was at an end.' On the death of Thomas, 2d Viscount, in 1109, s.p., his two sisters became his heirs, viz., Margaret, the wife of Sir George Vere, Knt., and Elizabeth, hereafter mentioned, when it is presumed that the Barony of L'Isle became suspen- ded ; for although the said Elizabeth was possessed of the manor she was not sole heir of John Talbot, her father, and consequently had not the two constituent qualifications necessary to entitle her to the dignity. On the death of her sister, Lady Vere, however, S.p., she appears to have become legally seised of the Barony as is recited in the patent of 14 Mar. (15 Edw. IV.) 1475, granted to her husband, Edward Grey." (") See p. 115, note "b" next above. ( b ) The patent was in effect the same as that of 1444, but contained recitals of the devolution of the manor of Kingston Lisle, from Warine de Lisle to Elizabeth Grey, after the death of her sister, Margaret de Vere, and how that the said Warine "et omnes Autecessores sui, ration* dominii el manerii pricdielnrum, nomeu et dignitatem Baronis et Domini de Lisle, a tempore, quo memoria hominum mm existit, optiuuerunt et habuerunt." ( c ) See p. 115, note "c." ( li ) See " Creations, 1483-1616 " in up. 47th Hep. D. K. Pub. Records. As to the precedency hereby granted, see p. 115, note " c," ( e ) See a list of the 45 Peers there present in vol. iii, p. 8, note "c," sub "Daore."