Template talk:Ordered list

Simple example of usage:

The Book of the Thousand Nights and One Night/Volume 1

List items that split over a page break

Can the module cope with a list item that continues over a page break? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:07, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Yes, see Page:The Pālas of Bengal.djvu/80. -- Hrishikes (talk) 10:29, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Erm that page is using {{numbered list}} a different template, that's using intense wikimarkup over this one which is LUA code? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

I had in mind this situation:

4. Item 4 - when formatting a list , it's important to 
<!--- page break -->
correctly format when a list item is split between two pages.
5. The style of a list item can be changed using ...
....

I'm not entirely certain either template can cope cleanly with that situation at present.

The template seems to be using table syntax (pipe mark at start of every line). So it should be like page-spanning table. Or, there should be something like {{dotted TOC page listing/top}}, {{dotted TOC page listing/suspend}}, {{dotted TOC page listing/resume}}, {{dotted TOC page listing/bottom}} for this kind of thing. If I get a suitable page with this kind of issue, then let's see. Hrishikes (talk) 11:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Okay lets back up a little.. Which template is (wrongly) using a table style approach to lists? Lists and tables are NOT the same thing, and whilst using a table to do a list is reasonable it seems to me to be setting up problems for the future.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:43, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

If you needed an example to work on, see the tables at the start of the Ruffhead Statutes of large.. If I recall I ended up coding some of those with inline HTML directly, which is ugly (And I was of the view that inline HTML in 'content' pages was undesirable for portablity reasons.)

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Start here for example Page:Ruffhead - The Statutes at Large - vol 2.djvu/9, So far I've not found 'split-list' items but I am checking..ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:48, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

And found a specfic example: Page:Ruffhead_-_The_Statutes_at_Large_-_vol_9.djvu/31 to Page:Ruffhead_-_The_Statutes_at_Large_-_vol_9.djvu/32 contains a 'split-over-page break list item'. The current approach works but is ugly and cleaner wiki markup compatible way of doing it would be better.

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:50, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: OK, I'll have a look. Now, about Page:1909historyofdec04gibbuoft.djvu/278, I had tried double column with the line in between by using {{multicol}}, but the start parameter of {{ordered list}} seems to be non-functional. Hrishikes (talk) 12:39, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Intresting.. Where I'd replaced it already and I will check it was working. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:40, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Done it. Did you notice that there is no serial "j"? Hrishikes (talk) 16:10, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

This is why I don't 'validate' stuff I've proofread. :) Thanks. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: -- I have attempted the Ruffhead pages. The page break is problematic with the templates. Page-break variants of the templates (like dtpl variants) required. You can revert my edits if you wish (it now looks uglier, I think). -- Hrishikes (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes definitely, want to figure out how to write them, so we can resolve this?ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:57, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: -- Did it, please check. Not much elegant, I fear. Hrishikes (talk) 18:13, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00, @Hrishikes:--

Using 'start' element and specifying the integer worked for me. https://te.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%81%E0%B0%9F:AntuVyadhulu.djvu/39

merge function or migrate ?

Note, I am thinking that depending on usage, that {{numbered list}} should be merged with {{ordered list}} ?

Ordinal numbers list

I would like to have an option for formatting at list like:

1st. ababababababbabb

2nd. ababababababbabb

3rd. ababababababbabb

Eievie (talk) 02:00, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Parenthesis numbers

(1) ababababababbabb

(2) ababababababbabb

(3) ababababababbabb

For a book that contains this kind of list as well as the normal kind, and contrasts between the two.

Eievie (talk) 02:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. And, it's important for line breaks to work properly...so, for instance, the following is not ideal, because the additional lines are not left-aligned properly: -Pete (talk) 08:04, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

(1) ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb

(2) ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb ababababababbabb

(3) ababababababbabb

You can set up handling for a parenthetical list by using CSS on the 'marker', and the list-item counter. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Counter_Styles/Using_CSS_counters

ol.__ourclass li.::marker{
content:"(" counter(list-item)")"
}

However, I'm not sure how portable that is to older browsers. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:32, 4 July 2022 (UTC)