Template talk:Raw page scan

Updating recommended process

Since Hesperian created this template in 2012, the instructions have been incrementally improved, but have not been substantially updated. In the intervening time, new tools have emerged that can simplify the process, including mw:Help:Extension:FileImporter and Croptool. I just took a stab at updating the instructions. I think it might be better to create a whole wiki page to present the various options, and just link to it from the template. Thoughts? -Pete (talk) 23:34, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Peteforsyth: I'm spread a little thin just now, so I haven't been able to give this the number of cycles it deserves. But with that caveat:

First of all you'll want to raise this at WS:S. Generally nobody watches individual talk pages around the project, so you won't really get any feedback here.

Further, I suggest you revert your doc changes for now, for two reasons. One is that I think it likely that we'll be better served with a separate page of instructions, as you mention. And the second is that this particular workflow is not necessarily one we want to encourage, and since the batch uploads that created the files was authorised under certain conditions and expectations, changing these may be controversial. A central discussion of it will hopefully bring any specific concerns on the table, but for me it's a matter of not wanting random users with limited experience transferring these files to Commons without renaming them, without properly cleaning up the information page and templates, and without cleaning up the image itself. That's not necessarily a deal-breaker (just a concern), and I do want to enable that workflow for users who know what they're doing, but it's enough to make me leery of encouraging that through the instructions without a bit more thought put into it at least. --Xover (talk) 17:33, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Xover: I'm not in a huge rush, and I'm also spread a bit thin at the moment. So while I agree that a Scriptorium discussion would be a good idea, I'm not going to dive into it right away; I think it's best to have a clear head without distractions before launching that. But I have reverted my additions in the meantime, good suggestion. Here they are for handy reference. -Pete (talk) 18:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)