Richard Bartholomew

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New Sources about Devaranne

We need to work out whether New Sources about Devaranne is in the public domain; i.e. free of copyright. Do you know when it was published, or the birth/death dates of the named author? John Vandenberg ^(chat) 16:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Based on other materials from the same source, I would guess that this article appeared some time between 1933 and 1935 in the Bergische Zeitung published in Solingen, Germany. I will try to locate more exact information. User:Richard Bartholomew

As it is after 1923, and was published in Germany, we need to work out if H. Pohl has been dead for 70 years. If he hasnt, then it is still copyright. We need to work out who this Pohl character is. Where did you obtain the image from? I am an admin on Commons so I can undelete it if/once the copyright issue has been resolved. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 10:27, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

I've been able to find out that H. Pohl was a headmaster at one of the grade schools in the City of Solingen's Wald district. I created the image from a copy of the article that Pohl gave to Hans Hundenborn, a local Solingen-Wald historian. I'll need to check with Mr. Hundenborn, but I believe I remember him mentioning that Mr. Pohl died during the 1960s.

The Bergische Zeitung is no longer in publication. According to http://www.solingen-internet.de/si-hgw/imprimatur/graph_Gewerbe.htm, "Bergische Zeitung" was converted into a party (presumably NSDAP) newspaper in 1935 and renamed "Rheinische Landeszeitung". The Rheinische Landeszeitung existed until 1945 (see http://www.solingen.de/stadtarchiv/archiv/zeitueb1.htm) then apparently went out of business. I have no idea at the moment who, if anyone, holds the copyright for this article.

Unless we have evidence to the contrary, we assume that the copyright is held by the author; if he died in 1960, that means this is copyright until 1960 + 70 = 2030. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 13:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Death Sentence after the "Russian Truncheon Insurgency"

You have tagged Death Sentence after the "Russian Truncheon Insurgency" as {{PD-release}}; have you personally communicated with the author, or do you have some other evidence that it has been released into the Public domain? John Vandenberg ^(chat) 07:55, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I have not tried to contact the author. I based the tag on

     Linking to copyrighted works

     Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as 
  long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that 
  the page in question is not violating someone else's copyright. 
  If it is, please do not link to the page.

under http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Copyright_policy.

I saw that the article is explicitly copyrighted by the Solinger Tageblatt and not by Mr. Weber. I concluded from this that, since the Solinger Tageblatt made the article freely available on the internet, that it had also given permission to translate and reference the article.

Do I need to contact Mr. Weber or the Solinger Tageblatt to get explicit permission?

The section "Linking to copyrighted works" refers to creating a link to another website, like "this" -- it doesnt allow for the text on another website to be copied to Wikisource.

You need to obtain an explicit release from the copyright holder, which is Herbert Weber, unless it has fallen into the public domain. If you obtain an explicit release of copyright, it needs to be forwarded to permissions@wikimedia.org to be put on file. We are very meticulous about authorship and copyright.

I found mentions of a "Herbert Weber" from the early 1910s; it might be a different person with the same name -- do you know whether the author of Death Sentence after the "Russian Truncheon Insurgency" is still alive? For each author, at the very least we need a short one sentence biography about the author and their birth & death dates. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 01:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I have written to the Solinger Tageblatt requesting instructions for getting permission to publish a translation of Mr. Weber's article. A reply has yet to appear.

Meanwhile, it's possible that the Herbert Weber from the early 1910s is the same as the author of the article in question. However, this would place him in his 90s or 100s when he published the article in 2003.

A Google search on '"Herbert Weber" Solinger' turns up, for example, http://www.solingen-internet.de/si-hgw/600jahre.htm, wherein I find a Herbert Weber referred to as

...Herbert Weber, einst Archivar beim Solinger Tageblatt und nimmermüder Heimatchronist... (...Herbert Weber, former archivist at the Solinger Tageblatt and tireless local chronicler...).

This Herbert Weber has written a book entitled Wanderungen mit dem alten Wanderschuh (Hiking with the old hiking shoe). The book was published B. Boll, Solingen in 1974. B. Boll also publishes the Solinger Tageblatt if I'm not mistaken.

Mr. Weber has written other more recent articles for the Solinger Tageblatt. For example Wenn ein Stahlgigant ins Straucheln kommt (When a Steel Giant Makes a False Step) published 07/19/2007 (see http://www.solinger-tageblatt.de/index.php?redid=167014) and 20 000 obdachlose Solinger standen vor dem Nichts (20,000 Homeless Solingen Citizens stand Before the Void) published 08/28/2004 (see http://www.solinger-tageblatt.de/index.php?redid=62141).

I'm almost certain that Mr. Herbert is still alive, but I guess I'll need to wait for a reply from the Solinger Tageblatt before we can make further progress.

OK. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 08:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Wald honors its Freedom Hero Devaranne

You have tagged Wald honors its Freedom Hero Devaranne as {{PD-release}}, but that is quite misleading because the page header does not mention who is the author: how could an unnamed author have released their copyright?? Can you name the author?

Do you have correspondence from the author? If so, you must send the evidence to permissions@wikimedia.org and you should wait for it to be approved before adding the content to Wikisource.

All three of the pages you have added so far qualify for speedy deletion A3 "Works without authorship information" because the author has not been identified. I am worried that if you keep doing translations, and dont determine the authorship and copyright status, your work will be lost. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 00:38, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Not to worry about the translations being lost, I keep local copies.

As for authorship, none is given with the article unless the cryptic "F.H." at the very beginning are the author's initials. I have sent a message to permissions@wikimedia.org in which I reproduced and translated copyright pertinent information about this article from Mr. Rogge at the Solingen City Archive. He writes:

Dear Mr. Bartholomew,

In all probability there is no longer any interest in preserving the copyright because the newspaper had to cease appearing in 1935. After the Second World War, neither the paper nor its publisher were reestablished.

To us, as the source of Mr. Hundenborn's copy, it would suffice if you cite the "Bergische Zeitung" as source in the internet name us as "Stadtarchiv Solingen".

Sincerely

Ralf Rogge Director, City Archive

City of Solingen City Archive Gasstraße 22 B 42657 Solingen - Germany - Phone: +49 (0)212 / 290 3635 Fax: +49 (0)212 / 290 3648

Web: http://www.stadtarchiv.solingen.de

In future, I will wait for a positive reply from permissions@wikimedia.org before posting material.

____________________________________________________

Sehr geehrter Herr Bartholomew,

aller Wahrscheinlichkeit besteht kein Interesse mehr an der Wahrung des Urheberrechts, da die Zeitung 1935 ihr Erscheinen einstellen mußte und auch nach dem Zweiten Weltkrieg weder die Zeitung noch der Verlag wieder gegründet wurde.

Uns, als die Quelle der Kopie von Herrn Hundenborn, würde es reichen, wenn Sie im Internet die Quelle "Bergische Zeitung" und uns mit "Stadtarchiv Solingen" nennen würden.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Ralf Rogge Leiter Stadtarchiv

Stadt Solingen Stadtarchiv Gasstraße 22 B 42657 Solingen - Germany - Fon: +49 (0)212 / 290 3635 Fax: +49 (0)212 / 290 3648

Web: http://www.stadtarchiv.solingen.de

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