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hadn't been told that. But Matt Pottinger had just arrived in the White House. That was about 1 or 2. And Matt had come in. And Matt had been aware of it, that there had been a discussion on the need for National Guard troops. So Matt Pottinger was aware of it, not me.
Q Okay. And so that first time you heard about it.
A Uh-huh, yeah.
Q Was that conversation with Mr. Meadows.
A Yeah.
Q Okay. All right. So you started talking about this a little—
Mr. . Actually, before we get to that, , do you have any questions?
Mr. . I don't, no. Thanks
Mr. . ?
Mr. . [Nonverbal response.]
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Q You started to talk about this a little bit. And, in your book, you wrote that in your drive in to the White House on January 6th, the crowd didn't seem menacing. And you said, quote: The Secret Service certainly expected no trouble. They were not in riot gear, and there was no extra security around the White House or the Capitol.
A Uh-huh, yes.
Q Okay. That's accurately—
A Yeah.
Q That's your sentiment?
A Yeah.
Q All right. And you said you didn't see anyone in riot gear. Were you referring, when you said you didn't see anyone in riot gear, to the Secret Service being in
