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lias either been placed in the local museum, with a record of the circumstances in which it was discovered, or forwarded to the British Museum. WILLIAM McMunnAY.

[The earlier history of this discovery is related at length in a letter from the Rev. Dr. Cox which appeared in The Athenceum for 25 September.]

" VEGETARIAN " : " FRUITARIAN." I often see it stated in German vegetarian journals that " vegetarian " is derived not from " vegetable," but from vegetus, fresh, sound, healthy. If I remember rightly, the word was coined in England ; but I think that nobody can tell on etymological grounds what the author of the appellation meant, unless he betrayed it himself ; in other words, he must have been an indifferent Latin scholar. " Vegetable " and " arian " would make " vegetabilarian " a horrible crea- tion, because, apart from its length, two

formative endings abilis and -arius,

arianus would have been compounded ; on the other hand, the formation " vege- tarian " from vegetus would also be barbaric, for, as far as I know, arius and its enlarge- ment arianus are affixed only to substan- tives in Latin and English, agrarian, grega- rius, librarius, stercorarius, sectarian, sicarius, valetudinarian (also a hideous word), and vestiarium. Antiquarius and secretarius .seem to contradict the principle ; but the former is one who handles antiqua, old things, and the latter one who deals with seer eta, secret things, so substantives formed from adjectives have been the starting-point. Furthermore, there would be no meaning in " veget-arian," as this ending implies being concerned with that which is designated by the preceding ^ word. By the way " fruit- .arian " is also an ill-formed hybrid. Vege- tarians have not been well treated as yet from a linguistic standpoint.

G. KRUEGER.

Berlin.

DICKENS AND THE TEMPERANCE MEETING. In ' The Pickwick Papers,' Dickens gives an account of the annual meeting of the Brick Lane Branch of the United Grand Junction Ebenezer Temperance Associa- tion, over which Mr. Anthony Hum presided.

It appears, however, that there was a Brick Lane Temperance Society, whose chairman was Mr. G. J. Knight, a Temper- ance worker in East London, who died in 1883, aged eight-five. Mr. Knight remem- bered a visit by Dickens to the Brick Lane Society another instance of how very much Dickens drew from real life.


See The Church Monthly for January, 1910, p. 29, where this incident is mentioned by Mr. F. Sherlock, my information being obtained from an advance specimen page.

D. J.


djmrus.

WE must request correspondents desiring in- formation on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that answers may be sent to them direct.

RICHARD CCEUR-DE-LION : HIS HEART. M. Deville, keeper of the Musee d'Anti- quites of Rouen, discovered in the cathedral of that town a box containing the dust of what had been Richard's heart, and this was exhibited for many years, at his museum. The proceedings of the Commission des Antiquites de la Seine Inferieure of the time relate the circumstances of the dis- covery.

But in London, I am told, they have also, in a church near the Tower, the remnants of Richard's heart. Has this ever been proved or ascertained ? CHARLES RCESSLER.

Rue Lemarois, 30, Auteuil, Paris.

BAKERS' SERVANTS c. 1440. Among these I find mentioned in 1441 the following, viz.:

1. Fourner, whose business is described to be "to sesoun the bred and bake it.'*

2. Whitehew, who had to weigh the bread.

3. Sowreour, whose duty it \vf s to " see the bred sesond. n

I should be glad of some light on these journeymen or yeomen bakers, more especially as to the etymology of the last two. REGINALD R. SHARPE.

Guildhall, E.G.

THOMAS MOORE'S WIFE. I venture to ask a question again, through the pages of ' N. & Q., J which, when put by me several years ago, failed to elicit an answer. Is any picture, or drawing of any kind, of the face of Mrs. Moore, the poet's wife, known to exist ? " Bessy ' J would seem to have been handsome. Samuel Rogers thought her very like Catalane. In her husband's ' Letters and Journals * there are many references to her good looks. It is strange that none of his artist friends should have made a sketch of features which were apparently a subject of such general admira- tion. Perhaps some of the old residents in the neighbourhood of Sloperton Cottage, Devizes, Wiltshire, may be able to answer the question. MORGAN McMAHON.

Sydney, N.S. Wales.