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thank you for the welcome page, finally discovered...Edit

Hi John, Thank you for your 'welcome to Wikisource' which I have just discovered, in turn just prior to happening on a perfect little treatise by Edgar Allan Poe on The Philosophy of Furniture, written so long ago and remaining so delightful a read today. Thank you, Anne.

The mysterious Header toggle buttonEdit

When proofreading in the Page: namespace and one has their toolbar turned on [Gadgets | Editing (tab) | Editing toolbar (checkbox)], one will see the button  , and clicking it toggles the header/footer on and off. In this space we put the relevant components for top and bottoms of pages, usually by use of the template {{RunningHeader}}, so for example {{RunningHeader|Stanhope|3|Stanhope}} produces


I personally have my header/footer set to open in the Page: namespace and I achieved this by activating that option in my Gadgets. To also note that at this time, the use of the newer Wikieditor toolbar (Editing tab in My preferences) does not yet display all the tools that we utilise for proofreading. If you turn it off in your preferences you access the older toolbar and more editing options. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

It looks like an interesting workEdit

Gday. Just to say that I like the work that you have started upon, and I will try to follow along on your tail to validate the work. It fits into one of my interest of works in the Victorian space. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:12, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

in reply to billinghurstEdit

Thank you for your '...mysterious Header toggle button'(which I will explore) and also 'It looks like an interesting work'. I am only now beginning to explore the parameters outside the text and back at the user namespace. That is, setting up the User namespace and finally locating this talk page, which I first encountered in July but was not sure what to do.

It is necessity that draws me back to this talk page to seek your assistance with the editing I am undertaking. By way of explanation, I have done the research in an attempt to discover what markup would assist me with page 80 (and page 42); and I also notice that you took the time to validate some of the pages of the text, for which I thank you, and by which I learnt to add some useful markup notation to the editing process (i.e. the small and larger heading; and the notation at the end of a page that prevents the page from 'spreading'. These terms I use are probably not the correct terms.) I am now in froth and bubble with page 80, and worked on it outside the page in a 'sandbox' area, that I sincerely hope to be able to find again some day, as it was useful. However while the trial worked within the sandbox page, my replication of it was unsuccessful, when returning to the text, page 80. I do not mean to leave the page in such a mess but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get it to work. I hope your interest in the text remains and that you might deign to advise me of the correct procedure. And yes I do very much like the text I am working on and thank John Vandenberg for guiding me to it. Victorbyron (talk) 04:59, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I've taken the liberty of intercepting this and working on those two pages for you. Have a look at them and see if what I've done makes sense. On page 42 I've used a table (and continued it onto page 43). On page 80 I've used {{block center}} along with poem formatting.

With respect to finding pages you've worked on in the past, click on "my contributions" along the top of your screen. This will give you a list of every change to any page that you've made. You can then track back through the list and find what you're looking for. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:56, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for doing this; the poem looks very nice. Your use of the {{block center|{{ is much less complicated than the markup I chose, <div class="center"style.... and so on. And I will use this in future, although both markup syntax produce the same result as far as I can see? Using the markup syntax <poem... is just incredibly neat and easy; thank you. I still wonder why the     ... worked in the sandbox but would not work in the text editing page? Thank you very much. Victorbyron (talk) 09:18, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
I see that you are trundling away. Nice. If you are after a place to ask any questions, you can do it here, where a few may be watching, or the general help forum which is Wikisource:Scriptorium. We are a friendly helpful bunch (well, we try to be). — billinghurst sDrewth 15:16, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks billinghurst; I am after a place to ask questions and sincerely thank you for the generous offer that I may ask here. These questions I will try and keep to a minimum, having first tried to solve the dilemma myself. Other not-of-text type general questions, of which there are many, I will ask Scriptorium. This too is good to know. You all are indeed a professional and kind bunch. Thank you, Anne Victorbyron (talk) 15:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

re Index:Dawson - Australian aborigines...Edit

{{helpme}} Hi John, I am up to pages 44 through to 205+. But from now on in this book it seems odd in that many of the remaining pages are repeated throughout the remainder of the pages. For example, p151 and p173 are both QUADREPEDS, page Xlviii? Again, page 153 and p165 are the same; moving on through the pages pages 180 and p 190 are the same; page 181 and page 191 are the same; pages 182 and p 192 are the same; pages 188 and 196 are the same; and pages 168, 179, 189 are all the same. I don't see how the book as it appears here for editing could possibly reflect the original book. Do you know who put the book up for editing and if so the original book may be able to be checked. Can you help please. Anne Victorbyron (talk) 16:06, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Index:Dawson - Australian aborigines (1900).djvu. If it is duplicate pages, then delete the text from the page, in the header type that it is a duplicate, and use the NO TEXT for page status. I will try and have a look at the book to see what is the issue, and make a recommendation. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:55, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
I have redone the page numbering for the appendix stuff, and fronm looking at the work it would seem that there are duplicates, so just follow the instruction above. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:12, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks billinghurst; kind of you to do this. I will have a good look at this tomorrow, and will try and follow your instructions, which will no doubt become meaningful when I begin following your instructions. I have another dilemma not yet articulated, in that the remaining pages are (a) initially made up of tables; and (b) pages and pages of text appearing sideways (east-west axis) on the page; the latter presenting a dual dilemma (i) in that I don't know how to turn the page to a north-south axis; and (ii) I don't know how to edit the tables that are the turned pages (east-west axis). Would you please advise me how I might approach this difficult editing task. Thank you. Victorbyron (talk) 12:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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