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Picky picky I amEdit

Aside from the other note at Index talk:The History of Ink.djvu, I've also got a bee in my bonnet about small caps for special words as seen in The History of Ink.

Compare these two versions, using plain caps, and using sc. (BD2412 and I had an edit conflict, and thus this page provides a good example)

I think the second using {{sc}} better approximates the original, not least because of letter heights.

Elsewhere I think I've seen people using {{smaller|PAINTS}}. For comparison that would be

The old inks were PAINTS; the writing inks now ...
The old inks were paints; the writing inks now ...
The old inks were PAINTS; the writing inks now ...

What is to be used? Shenme (talk) 03:25, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Probably paints; I'm not trying to impose any formatting on the page, just creating pages. BD2412 T 03:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Hmm. My own preference is to use smallcaps. However, I don't mind which is decided on—as long as it's consistent. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:48, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


Hello and happy Public Domain Day!

When you have a time for it could you please undelete Fombombo, Index:Fombombo.pdf and the related pages (Page:Fombombo.pdf/XX) as we chatted about it in 2015 on my talk page.

I would like to finish that book but as I haven’t worked on WS for long, it would be better not to start from zero. --Nonexyst d 16:11, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, all done. I didn't restore pages with no text as they're easy enough to redo. I've made a couple of adjustments at the same time. When there is no printed table of contents, we use {{AuxTOC}} when we want to provide one. I've put it together for you on the mainpage, but have left the one you created on the Index alone. Also, we use Arabic numerals for chapter subpages rather than Roman. So, alongside restoring the first 8 chapters I've moved them to Chapter 1, Chapter 2, etc. The AuxTOC has been set up for this. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:59, 1 January 2019 (UTC)


for semi-protecting my talk page. No more pings! Doug Weller (talk) 18:26, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


I know this stuff doesn't mean as much here, but you made your 100,000th edit recently.[1] Congratulations!!!! Thank you for your contributions to Wikisource!MJLTalk 22:36, 20 March 2019 (UTC) edited: 22:37, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


Same nonsense BMI stuff as always. (Link) –MJLTalk 03:59, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

How does patrolling work?Edit

Hi, I've come across a proofreader User talk:TE(æ)A,ea., working on Phil. Review while checking my watchlist, and s/he is still being patrolled after being quite active for more than 6 months. I was just wondering how the autopatrolling worked? Is this a red flag? Cheers, Zoeannl (talk) 09:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Not a red flag. Just a way of keeping an eye on the new and new-ish editors and giving them hints and tips as required. I haven't had a chance to do a general review of their edits recently. I suspect that once I do, I will give them the autopatrol bit (unless someone else gets there first). The worst thing to do to someone (I believe) is to give them the bit and then take it away again, so I tend to be conservative. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


Hello Beeswaxcandle. I have been away for a while, but I just alighted on Chopin's Nocturne, and noted an error message... Are there issues with LilyPond? Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Not that I can see other this one. None of our other big scores are failing. I've copied the Lilypond code into my off-line apps and it's compiling there just fine, so I'm not sure what's happening here. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:47, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Hmm. Okay, no problem. Can you possibly point me to a score of similar composition here (if one exists) that was created since the Nocturne? I could try to compare them and see if I find anything odd (unless you think there is no point). Thanks if you can, Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:05, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
P.S. Seems to have also affected all 4 instances in my sandbox as well. So I'm guessing it's something exclusively present (or absent) in the markup of the particular score (Nocturne). Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:23, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
There are some longish scores in Fugue (Prout)/Chapter 9, but they all seem fine. You might be best to log a Phabricator ticket. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:25, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I will look into both at some point soon :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Odd, the MIDI player seems to read the code fine, even though it doesn't render on the page. @Londonjackbooks: I'd be happy to help creating a phabricator ticket if that's something you're not familiar with, just let me know. -Pete (talk) 01:50, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Ah, Thanks Pete! I just found your input here because I was going to look into it a bit this morning... Selfishly, I would love for you to create a ticket... In the meantime, I will take a look at the markup in comparison with another score while I am feeling ambitious. Thanks, and no hurry (Não te apresses)! Londonjackbooks (talk) 02:42, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

OK, I created task T230499 on Phabricator. Important to point out, I don't think this ticket is likely to lead to a solution in itself; the benefit, I think, is that it creates a space to collect ideas about what might be happening. Whether anybody knows enough to contribute something, is a very open question! But, at least it's there. Please feel free to add to it if I missed anything in my description.

Also, I wonder...I haven't done much with scores myself, so I don't know if I can do this...but, have you tried a process-of-elimination approach? That is, cut out the second half of the score, and see if the problem persists...then cut out the first half, and check again. See if you can narrow it down... -Pete (talk) 17:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

It was the first score I ever did. Can't say I knew exactly what I was doing! Thanks very much for creating the ticket, and I may try to play with the score... but if memory serves, it's not completely... what's the word... linear? But I don't remember specifically. I'm glad things are well with you :) Later, Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Looks like @Ankry: finally solved this! See here. Also, this is a really lovely piece...I'm enjoying a listen as I type. (Ankry also suggests this should be on multilingual Wikisource, since it doesn't have any English language content.) -Pete (talk) 22:03, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

The Message and Ministrations of Dewan Bahadur R. Venkata RatnamEdit

Can you help in the multivolume work of R. Venkata Ratnam. I have started the main page. How to link to the various volumes of his work similar to the "Castes and Tribes of Sothern India" Thank you.--Rajasekhar1961 (talk) 07:42, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Index:Directory to Heath's Book of Beauty 1833.pdfEdit

What to do with something like this? It is an excerpt, and cannot easily be transcluded like that with any value. Trying to reconstruct it from the parts is way too much trouble. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:18, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

We've already got Index:Heath's Book of Beauty 1833.pdf, which is transcluded (I think it's only Landon's poetry out of it and not the complete text, but that's a different issue). I suggest that deleting the Directory and its pages is the best way forward. I can't see that there's anything useful there that isn't in the other. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:54, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Index:The Army and Navy Hymnal.djvuEdit

Thanks for the adding score to this, would you also be considering adding appropriate instrument choices, in the way the earlier IP contributor had previously? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the default piano is an inappropriate instrument for these hymns. I doubt the users that this hymnal was designed for had access to pipe organs while at sea or in the field. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Okay. That I can agree with. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:36, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
The thought was flute or brass actually. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:01, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

talk pages deletedEdit

You should restore above conversations because there is no proof buck was born in 1866 or died in 1916, the questions was asked to provide sources!

Morphy, his later life, main page was reverted by billinghurst, january 11 is wrong, i have the copy of the original book, it says January 1902.

They were deleted because the discussion of Lubock's (sp?) defence is out of scope. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:25, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
whatever he said about the part on 1866 & 1916 not being sourced, about january 11 1902 being wrong you should have left!

Delete The Meaning of the Glorious KoranEdit

I see you've placed a placeholder at The Meaning of the Glorious Koran; can we simply delete it outright? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:31, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

I did it that way as a sop to the editor who created it twice in 24 hours. They complained about the deletion on my talk page (archive3/item 55). It really doesn't worry me if it gets deleted now. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:54, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights SurveyEdit

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Reminder: Community Insights SurveyEdit

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billinghurst sDrewth 22:27, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights SurveyEdit

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ReverseEdit Could you reverse This Page to this version 2405:9800:BC11:BD0D:7108:44FC:B410:6E1B 23:15, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Declined without evidence that the article you wish to have put back in would meet our inclusion criteria. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:17, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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