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Thank you for adding the images for Index:A father's legacy to his daughters - Gregory - 1808.djvu. Do you think you could do the same for Index:Tarzan and the Golden Lion - McClurg1923.pdf or Index:London - The People of the Abyss.djvu? Much appreciated in any case. Languageseeker (talk) 03:09, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, no problem. Tomorrow though.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 04:27, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! Languageseeker (talk) 22:07, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
@Languageseeker: I finished the Tarzan. I cleaned that up at wikidata also (some), My data is at least less of a violation of the structure than what was there. The first edition was in a journal? So, the book needs a new data. I make two, one for the scan/index page and one for the commonscat/main. The book people are not happy with that, but it really works well with the wikis! The photographs in the Abyss are next. A quick count says 81 images there! I will work on them each day until I get bored. Bored == sloppy for me. They will get done....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 03:39, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much! The picture are absolutely gorgeous. :) Yes, the novel was originally serialized in Argosy All-Story Weekly. This copy is the first edition of the text published as a separate novel. Take your time with Abyss. It's quite a lot of images. I really appreciate all your effort. Languageseeker (talk) 03:48, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
@Languageseeker: I was getting the commonscat ready for the Abyss images and I happened to notice The People of the Abyss which looks a lot like a gutenberg text that was pasted here. Can I know the "plan" for that?--RaboKarbakian (talk) 21:44, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
My plan is to override that text with a transcluded version. The current version is missing the images and stops at Chapter 19. Languageseeker (talk) 22:50, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
@Languageseeker: the images are done for the London London book. I kind of appreciate the chance to refine my script. If you have another set of (crappyish) photos and would like to use my script, do let me know. It requires pre-rotation and guides, but it makes the color adjustments and saves to a new name. I had some ideas of how to write it to not require those two things, but my idea would still involve making a selection and a picky selection at that, probably not a time saver. I did figure out how to divide columns for cropping for ocr, but digging a photograph out of text is a different matter....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 23:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you so much. You're amazing. The pictures are absolutely gorgeous. Well, if you asked... There is also Index:Footsteps of Dr. Johnson.djvu, Index:Negro poets and their poems (IA negropoetstheirp00kerl).pdf, Index:Kwaidan; Stories and Studies of Strange Things - Hearn - 1904.djvu, and Index:The Chaldean Account of Genesis (1876).djvu. Take as long as you need, if you feel like doing any of them. Thank you!Languageseeker (talk) 00:10, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Heh, (read it again!) I offered to share my script. "Goregeous" is a word best saved for works that are goregeous. My script tries to make scans of photographs that were published in books to look as if they are scans of actual old-fashioned black and white developed photos, and not for good photos. It does a pretty good job of that. If you want the script, let me know about that.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 00:14, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Having the images helps the book a lot. Note that there are also published versions of London's prints made from the original on the web rather than the photogravures (e.g. [here) if we want to replace them eventually with higher res (but that has a different feel of course). MarkLSteadman (talk) 00:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
@MarkLSteadman: that's a great link and a huge collection! A very interesting man....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 01:58, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Oops, must of just been wishful thinking. I'd be glad to take a look at the script, but I'm not sure that I have enough time right now.
@Languageseeker: Let me know when you want the script and be warned(!!!): any software that prefers images made for "other software" and not for "people", (ie, a bot with a histogram in its pants) -- that software will not be happy with the images my script makes. Those images are for people who use eyes to review and not for software totting histograms. It will be available whenever you have the time.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 01:58, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
@MarkLSteadman: That's an amazing find. I'll try to upload the album to Commons as soon as Pattypan is fixed. Languageseeker (talk) 01:34, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Outdent. I noticed that you might have overlooked Page:London - The People of the Abyss.djvu/164 and Page:London - The People of the Abyss.djvu/285. Do you think that you could add the images to them as well? Languageseeker (talk) 04:57, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Languageseeker So sorry! I pulled those two because my script blew the whites out so badly on them and then I never got back to them. The final images are there and the blown images also, in the upload stack at commons (in case you are interested in seeing how badly my script damages some of these "photographs").--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:06, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! Scripts always behave badly sometimes. Appreciate your help with this one. Languageseeker (talk) 00:53, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Rackham bibliographyEdit

I see that you have been adding a great many works to Rackham’s Author: page; that is much appreciated. I have myself come across Arthur Rackham: His Life and Work (1960), which is in the public domain; it has a lengthy bibliography (with a full list of works he illustrated and to which he contributed illustrations, and a partial list of periodicals and ephemera which he illustrated). I hope to get that work scanned, but in the absence of that, I will upload the entire bibliography soon. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:41, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

@TE(æ)A,ea.: The book (from the library) that I used is from 1994, Rial. I skipped individual illustrations and some compilations. I got another book, which I only looked at a little, of illustrations. In that book, his browns are mostly bluish!! So, I feel better about many things, and am slowly going back over my images. Can you look up Goblin Market in your book and see if they have more than a year as the publication date?--RaboKarbakian (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
  • No, it just gives the year, noting publication in England (under some Ltd.) and by Lippincott in Pennsylvania. I think it gives more information in the text itself (rather than in the limited bibliography), but I’ll look at that later. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 03:29, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
  • RaboKarbakian: I have scanned in a bibliography here; it has the imaginative title of Arthur Rackham: A Bibliography. It also has some heretofore non-digitized pictures, including a photograph of Rackham himself. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
User:TE(æ)A,ea. THANK YOU! That photograph is funny! Typical Virgo who has the appearence of smelling something bad (even when things smell good).... I just picked up some images from Punch and an illustrated poem from Scribners. Having a pdf of this is just great!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 21:42, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
  • You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoy it. It mentions some works written by Rackham; I’ll see if I can get my ILL hands on them, if they’re in the public domain. I’ve scanned through the first chapter of Poor Cecco, and will do more in the near future. Besides that, I have another work (this a biography first, with partial bibliography) which I can scan in. (The main part is fine, but I believe some of the pictures used “with permission” are still copyrighted, so I’ll need to be careful in scanning.) TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:58, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
  • I have now proofread most of the bibliography. There are still the images at the end, which I would like you to create. I can re-scan those images (and the plates at the beginning) in extra-high quality, if you would like. I am creating the index at the moment, which is a very lengthy process. (Also, having found “Danaë” from The Century Magazine here at n. 631, it looks very nice; but the scan quality leaves something to be desired.) TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:20, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
I think I am uploading that bad Danae scan today. I have so many of the magazine articles (Punch and Little Folks and many others with not so much), they just need to be uploaded. I wrote a little script that will (with a little work on my part) hide the Google logo, etc. Title pages and bad scans from books too! As soon as I get the cat and the data settled, it is great to {{wdl}} the entry in the bibliography! I will work on it more when I get the uploads done. Hathi has that article he wrote, whose title has ended with hws in the biblio which should be available in a little more than two months from now.
User:TE(æ)A,ea.: I sure appreciate the proofing you have done!
Mentally, I am treating the bad scans as bookmarks....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
User:TE(æ)A,ea. that's just great! Hathi has two different and incomplete lists of that mag....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
User:TE(æ)A,ea.: I got one that is not in either of the biliographies. commons:Category:The Century Magazine/Volume 89/The Haunted Wood (*shoves Goblin Market closer to "Index creation"....)--RaboKarbakian (talk) 19:15, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
  • That looks nice! I’m tempted to search through all Century Magazine listings now, but maybe after some less bibliographic work. In other news, I’ve put out a request for some of those Little Folks listings; we’ll see how that turns out. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 19:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea.! Help? I am so perplexed! See: commons:Punch's Almanack for 1913. I cannot find this in the bibliography, but it must be there because I did not find this on my own....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 16:18, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Is this from your 1990s bibliography? It’s not in Latimore and Haskell, I’ve checked over a few times now. It is in Hudson, though, which may have carried over to your modern book; I’ll get the Hudson bibliography scanned in later to-day, as it seems to supplement the one I’ve already got. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:34, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Hudson’s list for Punch is: “Punch. Almanacks for 1905, 1906, 1907, 1913. 30 Aug, 6, 27 Sep, 11, 25 Oct, 15, 29 Nov 1905; 3 Jan, 14 Feb 1906; 3 Jan 1934.” TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:38, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea. Wow and yowza or something and definitely a thanks! I just don't remember pulling any magazines out of that book. It is there in the Rial. (I am kind of embarrassed now....)--RaboKarbakian (talk) 17:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

More pretty picturesEdit

I have scanned in a thin book of poetry and pictures; copyright checks out, I hope; if you would like some more images. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:05, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

TE(æ)A,ea. Sure! Let me know when it passes review. This is about that interesting question you asked at copyright? (I am sorting through the 1905 Punch....)--RaboKarbakian (talk) 21:13, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
  • It is! And, it seems to have passed. To the extent of my knowledge, the “new reproductions” are not original, and therefore not copyrightable. So, the images look good. By the way, these images are only “high” quality, and that from a split; I can get you some “photo” quality images, if you want those instead. I’m almost finished scanning in Poor Cecco, but the margins keep getting eaten up while scanning, so the process is lengthy. The images (black-and-white and color) are turning up nicely, though. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea. Poor Cecco was serialized in 1926 Good Housekeeping, which is also available now as it was not "volumed" with any month in 1927. I have been putting off the images for that (and for the serialized Betty Barber in St. Nicholas or Little Folks), due to: so many. Probably your scan will be much better images, although, compared to other Hathi scans, these are not so bad.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 22:48, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
(Cashmere Bouquet Soap, Poor Cecco, more Cashmere Bouquet Soap.... (heh))
TE(æ)A,ea.! **exclamation of happiness here** I got them! I'm gonna finish up with the London Bookman stuff I started and work on these this weekend!! They look like great scans! Whee!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 20:58, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I look forward to the cleaned-up images, too! There is an image on the title page, which I could not upload; but I think it was printed elsewhere in the book. I will leave you with what I have scanned so far, as I also have a substantial Wikisource backlog to go through. If anything comes through ILL, I’ll let you know; but I won’t be requesting any more Rackham books to scan until a large bibliography (on his Author: page) can be sorted out. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
User:TE(æ)A,ea. Two things. I am having a problem finding the title page. That's one. The other is that I have been reusing "similar" images and I don't know how I feel about that and thought I would get your feelings on it. The last one I reused was at Page:Poor Cecco - 1925.djvu/92 the lines of the landscape are alittle different. That's the second, and now for an unscheduled additional question. I kind of want to make a stylesheet for this. Feelings on that?--RaboKarbakian (talk) 18:03, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
  • The title page image is duplicated on p. 152. Many of the images are variations of each other; the title page image has at least two variations (one facing the other direction, and one without the basket). What are you thinking about, CSS-wise? (Not to shoot you down, but I don’t see anything too complicated in the book.) In other image news, I came across this… interesting image, which is represented also in this scan. I’m thinking of proofreading it soon, and would like to call on you to fill in any missing images (although I don’t think there are any). Really, I just think it’s an interesting assortment of images. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 19:05, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
User:TE(æ)A,ea. the title page has their legs behind some foliage. About the style sheet, when I was putting the images up, some are to the right and some to the left. I wanted to limit the width and center that so the images would not be clear to the far right in wide browsers. Those other images are great, I want to do them all, but in that color! There is another one by the same author that is similar, too. They remind me of this: commons:Category:The Pilgrim's Progress (1890) although, those are not even in the same beauty ball park.... They would make great flashcards, eh? Emojiſ!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 19:25, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
  • The images are the same; the “foliage” is a piece of soft paper I placed while scanning. For the images, that makes sense; I don’t know how to make CSS work here, so you can have fun with that. Oh, The Pilgrim’s Progress! Those images were rather nice, but the detail of the Passions is also quite pretty. In looking for works about Rackham, incidentally, I came across “Arthur Rackham’s influence on contemporary fantasy illustrators,” which certainly sounds interesting; but it is, I believe, copyrighted, being of a very recent date. An earlier work (from the 1950s) is stuck in ILL circles, and I probably won’t be able to get it while supply chains are disrupted, unfortunately. I just remembered: I claimed this index to work on, and I plan to start proofreading it after I’ve proofread Poor Cecco (and maybe the Passions), but I can’t extract the images. If you want, I can put it off until you’re able to work on those images—I don’t know what your schedule looks like. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 19:45, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
User:TE(æ)A,ea. the Japanese book is also interesting. The monochromatic images, they used white paint so the background is the color of the paper. I've got some scanning in my future; some are to be stashed until 1931, but one two volume set, I have not seen online; and beautiful is from 1896! But image work everyday. I need to get Johnson's footsteps done, the authors on that poetry book. But a future with Emojiſ on hand to be used when necessary is a future I look forward to!!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 22:29, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Index:Negro poets and their poems (IA negropoetstheirp00kerl).pdfEdit

I'm not sure if you have time or are interested, but, if you can, would you mind adding the images to Index:Negro poets and their poems (IA negropoetstheirp00kerl).pdf. Languageseeker (talk) 00:54, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Languageseeker About 40 images, and mostly of people, which is cool. If you don't mind me running them through my script and it taking a couple of days, then okay.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 01:27, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Take as long as you need. Thank you. :) Languageseeker (talk) 01:43, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the images. Languageseeker (talk) 03:56, 12 November 2021 (UTC)


You sent me back down memory lane, this is an image you might like, at least the subject matter. Apologies for the quality, amongst the constraints were an unsuitable lens (and converting to png wont help;). The background is intended to remind me of the fire that had just gone through, which prompts species with a usually subterranean existence to have their day in the sun. The diversity of these ancient beings is especially interesting in my part of the world, their relationship with other organisms in the soil is revealing remarkable interconnectedness as people have got around to studying them. Thanks for the recent distractions, reading the Bookman stuff has me sucked in to uploading and bookmarking all sorts of works that must be transcribed here! Cygnis insignis (talk) 05:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Dulac Book The sleeping beauty and other fairy tales from the old FrenchEdit

1925 Jell-O advertisement; Artist?

It seems that Index:The sleeping beautyand other fairy tales from the old French, (IA sleepingbeautyan00quil).pdf has the plate missing from Index:The sleeping beauty and other fairy tales from the old French (1910).djvu at Page:The sleeping beautyand other fairy tales from the old French, (IA sleepingbeautyan00quil).pdf/39 in case you are interested. Languageseeker (talk) 07:10, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

I made use of that, a good thing that another copy was around. Cygnis insignis (talk) 12:11, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
Every once in a while, lately, I dig this out and try to determine the name of the artist. Any one care to help or guess? --RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:01, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Phillis WheatleyEdit

I notice that this has various dates listed differently in different locations. The title page in the scan says 1838. The mainspace page says 1854. And the Index page says 1864. Which is correct? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

EncycloPetey What I know is almost nothing. I was asked to do the images for Negro Poets and Their Poems. After researching the photographs and data-fying them, I decided to link the book to Author pages, creating them if necessary. Second poet in that book is Phillis Wheatley and I checked out the transcription link and saw it was long ready for transclusion. About 45 minutes ago, I looked to see how poetry collections are installed in the main here, and I am pretty sure that I will need to be sectioning the work pretty darn soon. But that is all technical stuff. I got my date from the author page, maybe.
If you would like to work through the date problem, I will defer to whatever you determine. On the technical stuff, I am really unhappy with how long some of the page names are going to be. And I am more than willing to stop working on it now, and letting someone (you, if you care to) look things over before I get more involved. I have not done a poetry collection before, although sectioning will not be a problem.
So, the sum of what I know is this: I thought that it was a shame that it was fully proofed and almost completely validated and not yet transcluded; and here we are.  :)
It is nice to see you here and about!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 03:44, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
I really don't know, and that's why I asked. The date printed in a book can be wrong, or the date added to the Commons file may have been wrong. Without digging into research, I wouldn't be able to say.
Thanks. I have some vacation time, and am looking to read / proofread a collection of short stories, for which I am currently doing the technical and image prep. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:48, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
I suspect that the First Edition was published in 1834 at the start of the abolition movement in the US and this edition, the Third One, was published in 1838. [1]. Languageseeker (talk) 03:53, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
I am going to work on it again starting tomorrow, my day is getting kind of long and I am so happy to have interrupted by Petey and Co. I'm thinking that I am the man on the island with the box of Jell-O, it looked like it would be pretty easy, but that poor guy has to boil some water and find a place for it to chill....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 03:58, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Arthur Rackham: A Bibliography high-quality imagesEdit

I have re-scanned the photograph and the advertisements: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:15, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

TE(æ)A,ea. that is just great! Also, your scans of Poor Cecco are so much better than the Good Housekeeping scans!! I have to make some quiet calculation time because I (might have) separated the b&w into wrongly numbered separate images. The Good Housekeeping upload is snagged on a couple of soap ads, and not the ads that were in that book. Did you see Through a Glass Lightly? The chapter fleurons are going to be SVG, I think. My cover for that looks nothing like the original, but maybe better.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 21:51, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea. gottem.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 21:55, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I have seen the drinking book—a pretty title-piece, and interesting SVG fleurons. Certainly, 70+ MB per image will get you higher quality. How are the Poor Cecco and Milo Winter images coming along? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 22:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea.: Poor Cecco is doing better than Mr. Winters book. I am thinking of renting some movies or something similar while working on the Winter images, to keep my mind from wandering and for whatever attention disorder I might have (I think we all have a little of this). They require picky work, but not difficult or brain taxing; if they did not require my hands to fix them, I would maybe knit or crochet while working on them. As it is, they are like knitting or crocheting and having something else going on will be helpful (for me, my mind wanders and other things). Poor Cecco probably just requires me to start over separating the tif and doing it more logically. The color images are done and like I said, looking real nice compared to the GH images, which do not look so bad but compared to your scans, are very very yellow.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 22:18, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Page:Memoir and poems of Phillis Wheatley, a native African and a slave.djvu/6Edit

The image on this page seems to be taken from the DJVU page, as there is artefacting. You may want to use the higher-quality image available here.

Thanks for that. I did not even think about getting that and I really should have. I was sitting at the scanner, thinking about the need for a cover.

Less-than-pretty pictures (and, separately, magazine articles with Rackham illustrations)Edit

I noticed the growing list of periodical articles at Rackham’s Author: page; I was thinking of transcribing them soon. If you could select some from which to extract images (to be added in the transclusion), I can work on those first. In less-fun-pictures news, would you mind stripping the background color out of a few images (or make them new, as you’re inclined)? Some coins (which would replace the image here, as well); a map (although this one looks nice); and some seals. I was just working on these, and was bothered by the backgrounds. (You can see how interesting the book is, with three images in the first 487 pages.) TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:34, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

TE(æ)A,ea. Yeah, I can do those images, except the one, unless you want them all to be jpg. If the image is good, I leave it alone. A couple of that sourcerer's color plates in the Greenhouse book were as good or better than mine and I left them because replacing a good image with a 'not so good' or 'just as good' image is a dreadful thing. Several of those I replaced were great, but they were png, and the book, so heavy with images and no plan for making downloadable books with lighter weighted images yet.... So, lets leave it (I really don't like to be a bad guy removing others images).
About the Rackham article.... I had to stop myself from doing just that a couple of times, because of being busy and wanting to get what should be a finite list filled. They are all linked to, either in the bibliography or in the magazine section at his author page; at this point, your choice is as good as mine, really. A couple were poems. The Punch stuff is all just images, I made galleries for them at commons, which I'm not sure how to handle that here, and if it even should be handled here. The works of eh, C. V. something are all poems. There is a non-fiction work, by an engineer, about beds, which is not typical. There are sports pieces and sportsman's pieces, and probably a fairy story or two (but I haven't done Little Folks or St. Nicholas yet, so not as many as you'd think).
I got about 250 topsy-turvy scans to make right and a different IA upload experience to experience right after. I think I'll do those images for you first. Sorry to be chatty, it was a long day making pages straight and listening to the scanner whirl (or is it whizz?). Beaver coins sounds about right, heh!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 01:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea. I changed 90% to 275px, so you might want to change that. The images were huge! Also, I split the coins, and if you want a single image for en.pedia just let me know.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 02:23, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the images! They look great. (I had always wanted the coins split, too, so thanks for that. I can put them together for the enWP article (although I wouldn’t mind if you put them together). I will go through the articles as I have time; I trust in you to deal with the metadata as necessary. (Unfortunately, my current Little Folks ILL request seems to be gathering dust on the proverbial shelf, just like a dozen other old requests.) TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:08, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
TE(æ)A,ea. Putting the coins together is no problem. Little Folks is very sparse online. So is St. Nicholas, but not as sparse as Little Folks. I wonder if a hundred years from now, people might be trying to find Highlights....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:25, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

TE(æ)A,ea. I've almost caught up to you! Maybe some color next? The public domain day list reminded me of this. One page has a really bad gutter and it is a princess story. But an A. A. Milne princess story! The almost have stonings and drownings and burnings in it; but they opted for brothers.... I need to put the stuff in the book onto the author page. The magazine list is in two places. War Cranks, I am going to redo a couple of those images. I thought that if I treated them like color images, that the real color would come out. After working with a few more scans, I can see, they were supposed to be simple line drawings. Also, the red in the title, I am going to leave it, I thought the tiff was in grayscale and that the centers of the letters were a different color (dark grey not really dark grey), but the tiff is in rgb so I got that wrong also, but nicely wrong, I think. Fun stuff, thanks!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 03:46, 1 December 2021 (UTC)