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Collyweston, County Northampton, and owner of the Manor of Tickencote, County Rutland, entered his pedigree, claiming descent from one Theo- dorick de Dale, as appeareth by records. Knight Chevalier in the reigns of Edward III. and Richard II."

This Roger Dale was the second son of Robert Dale, of Hawkesley, in the county of Chester, who married Katherine Legh, daughter of Legh of Bagulegh, co. Chester. The arms granted to him were : Paly of six gules and arg., a bend erm. ; on a chief az. three garbs or. Crest : a mount vert, thereon three Danish battleaxes, one in pale and two in saltire, purpure, the staves az., encom- passed by a chaplet of roses alternately gules and arg., banded by a ribbon.

I find also that in 1634 Robert Dale, of Flagg, county Derby, entered his pedigree, and bore the same arms. What was the connexion between these two families 1

The arms and crest appended were con- firmed to William Dale, of Brigstock and London, in 1613 : Gules, on a mount vert a swan argent, membered and ducally gorged or. Crest : on a chapeau, turned up ermine, a stork argent, beaked, legged, and ducally gorged or. This William Dale was, according to his pedigree, the third son of Robert Dale, of Wincle, Prestbury (which, I may state, is nearer Macclesfield than Prestbury), Cheshire, who also married Katherine, daughter of Legh of Bagulegh.

Were Roger and William Dale afore mentioned brothers 1 It appears to be so, as they both claim Robert Dale, of Hawkesley or Wincle, as their paternal relative.

Were the arms confirmed to Roger Dale in 1602 the arms of the Dale family, or were those confirmed to William the rightful ones, as I found in the Add. MS. Room, British Museum, those of William Dale borne by his father, Robert Dale of Wencle ?

What connexion is there between the descendants of the Dales of Dalton, co Durham, who, according to Fairbairn's 4 Crests of British Families,' used the same crest that was confirmed to Dale of Brig stock? K. M. DALE.

MARY SEYMOUR, COUSIN GERMAN T< EDWARD VL-ln Miss Strickland's ' Life o Queen Catherine Parr' it is stated that bi her fourth husband Thomas, Lord Seymou of Sudley, she had one child, a daughter named Mary, who was born 30 August, 1548 the queen only surviving her child's birt] seven days. Can any of your readers sa what became of this young lady, daughte ot one queen and niece of another? Lodg says she died in her thirteenth year. Collin

firms that she died in infancy, "having een restored in blood." It is asserted by thers that she grew up and married Sir Edward Bushel, by whom she had a daughter, Iso named Mary, who became the wife of ilas Johnson, of Fordwich and Nethercoat, o- Kent. A descendant of this alleged rnar- iage is possessed of certain articles of Queen Catherine Parr's personal property which ad come down to him from this Mary bushel. The late historian and genealogist )r. Ho ward (Mo wbray Herald Extraordinary) s said to have possessed proofs of the marriage of Sir Edward Bushel with Mary "Seymour. His MS. collections have been sold ,nd disposed of, I believe, since his death, f any of your readers happen to possess any lata bearing upon this point, it would be ery satisfactory to hear of such. C. H.

ROBERT SCOT. I shall be very glad of any nformation concerning this man, who in- Dented the leathern artillery used by Gus- avus Adolphus with such success at Leipsic and other battles. After serving with the Danish Government, he closed his life in the ervice of King Charles I. in 1631. Charles made him a Gentleman of the Privy Chamber, and granted him a pension of 600. a year, ilis bust may be seen in the old parish

hurch of Lambeth.

R. M. HOLDEN, Lieut. -Col. R.U.S. Institution, Whitehall, S.W.

HOURGLASSES. Is there any literature on the subject ? XYLOGRAPHER.

[There are many references in the first four Series jO hourglasses.]

CHURCH BELLS. Has the rector or vicar of a church the legal right to forbid the ringing of church bells for non-ecclesiastical purposes when long -observed traditional custom demands that they should be chimed 1 In France the law relating to municipal organization settles the respective rights of cure and maire in the matter of bell-ringing ; but have the parochial authorities with us any power to enforce old custom if the cleric says them nay 1 When the Burials Bill was agitating the public mind and irritating the public temper, one view of the question was that the village graveyards anciently belonged to the community. And there is little doubt that many of them were, in reality, pre- Christian in origin, from which it may be deduced that, in many instances at least, the claim of the Churchmen was based on error. The bells, however, are another affair altogether. Can the parish put forth a valid claim, and demand that they shall be used on