Talk:The Peter Pan Portfolio

Walt/Roy Disney/Ibe Iwerks Story

I mentioned roy and Ibe, because thy were instrumental in Disney success! TrueStoryBeTold (talk) 08:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Why Portfolio?

Was this original story used in later Disney Peter Pan movie? Thats what I ment!

TrueStoryBeTold: The Peter Pan story started life as a novella (or some other word that means longer than a short story) The Little White Bird, which was serialized, un-illustrated, in an American Magazine in 1902. It was soon after published as an unillustrated book. Some not first edition (maybe second) included one line drawing from Arthur Rackham, a frontispiece. Another publication of it contained more than one illustration, and had a title change (I have not seen this book). Another book, Wendy and Peter, was published in 1911, I am uncertain of story differences for this book. In 1912, the book that contained these illustrations was published. And, the larger "coffee table book", this one, at the same time, all fancy, numbered and collectible (which as Fran Liebowitz pointed out "collectible" is not a noun). Green cover in England, Yellow cover in United States.

The story of the understanding of the copyright of this book, I heard of long before my own work with PD stuffs. As it was first published in USA, it escaped the copyright problems with both Barrie and Rackham death +100 years old, but knowledge of its publication was not widely known.

I truly believe that this not knowing of the USA publication and therefore its PD status, this book did not get included in school primers and other anthologies and collections of works. So, since television and film, our combined knowledge of Peter Pan starts with visual re-tellings. I did not see the word Tinkerbell once or ever in the book these images belong to. Tinkerbell, for sure a disney construct, half dragonfly, half girl, now there is where the copyrights are! Tinkerbell is fan fiction.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:11, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Where Disney stuck his foot in, I have no idea. How different the various versions are, also, I have no idea. For me, it was that Rogers and Hammerstein did not write Cinderella, so, now I have a difference between fact and preference and maybe you will also!

If you need to verify my words, (and I am typing from memory right now, conversationally not encyclopedicly) Author:James Matthew Barrie and Arthur Rackham: A Bibliography are good places to start. --RaboKarbakian (talk) 18:54, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

walt disney's last works had something borroweed from peter pan? however, the question is how much disney stick to the original story as you can see in pocahontas, she marries john smith, in real life she married somebody else, the only true depiction is when she saved john smith's life!

Copyright Status?

Why 83 years, why 1/1/1928? TrueStoryBeTold (talk) 08:44, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

So that's 95 years, thus al 1927 music and video is not subject to copyright?

Law passed to increase from 70 to 83 years?

@TrueStoryBeTold: For one, Disney the movie company had absolutely nothing to do with this 1912 pamphlet. In fact, Disney as a company didn't even exist then; Walt Disney himself didn't even start his career in animation until 8 years after this was published, which would have been 1920, with the short animated film Newman Laugh-O-Grams (1920) (and his first fully animated film being Little Red Riding Hood [1922]). In fact, the Disney company actually later adapted the original stories in the Peter Pan lore into films, and made their own movies out of them. Those films are still under copyright in the United States, but source material (such as The Peter Pan Portfolio) is not subject to US copyright.

Anything that was published before the year 1928 is by default in the public domain (meaning not under copyright) in the United States, where copyrights automatically expire 95 years after publication. Works may be copyrighted in other countries, but in order to be hosted on Wikisource, the only requirement is that a work is public-domain (or otherwise freely licensed) in the US specifically, regardless of status internationally. See Wikisource:Copyright policy for more information. PseudoSkull (talk) 09:58, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

oswald rabbit 1928 was official first disney cartoon!