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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 23:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Alexander Henry Haliday, also known as Enrico Alessandro Haliday and Alexis Heinrich Haliday (1807–1870) Letters and manuscripts

Hello I'm new here and not good with computers. How do I split this into multiple pages? All the best from Ireland Robert aka Notafly (talk) 10:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

We'd need to do it manually, and I am happy to help or do some examples on how it might flow. First a couple of questions. What is the source of the material? Would it be considered a specific collection, where we would have a head page (either the lead letter or a document that ties the documents together, and that could be as simple as a table of contents), and then have a collection of individual letters as subpages to the major page. That way we could put each of the letters onto their own page, and identify the respective author of each.

I think that we should also complete {{textinfo}} on the talk page. I will put it into place, though will need for you to complete the relevant data. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Very many thanks. I will need to think about this. I have been transcribing letters to and from Haliday for over 35 years, in Ireland, England,Italy,France and Germany.The bulk of the letters are in the Royal Entomological Society of London library ( I am a Fellow)and I will contact the Library as a courtesy. There is no copyright problem of course but the library may have plans of its own. The other problem is time and access to my archive (which is at the museum in Belfast from which I recently retired).In the interim I am planning only to post and edit the letters to Henry Tibbats Stainton which are in the Hope Department of Entomology in Oxford(interesting because of the view (s) of Italy)and the letters to the German entomologist Hermann Loew which link together other famous entomologists)and a tiny number of letters from a DDR library. All the Stainton letters are on the overlong page. I have only 27 letters to Loew (the rest are in German). My next plan is to cover letters from (and sometimes to) John Curtis and Francis Walker, London entomologists) but that is a big task since some are not typed.These may be better placed under their names not under AHH. A few relate to the Darwin insects. The originals of these are in RESL. My inital thought is to group the letters under the entomologists not under the libraries (too big a job). Very many thanks again and best wihes from Ireland Write to you soon Robert (Nash) aka Notafly (talk) 12:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay, you sound organised and the expert on the matter, so I will talk about possibilities and you can work out what is going to be best based on the material that is to hand.

• We have a person who is an author, so we need a page in the Author: namespace, specifically Author:Alexander Henry Haliday and a redirects from the two alternate names, and Author:Henry Tibbats Stainton.
• Each letter could be considered
  • a work, in which case we could host them individually (and would sit at the top level, though linked)
  • alternatively letters can be considered a collection and form subparts of a whole; or
  • you may say that there are distinct parts, eg. a theme to the parts, and we have separate into X parts and each part has a top level and subpages.

So a variety of options. We would still work on the principle that each letter deserves a page/subpage of its own as it is a distinct entity.

• Subject matter. If you want to build a subject matter space, eg. entomology, or similar, then we utilise the Portal: namespace Portal:Entomology to have the flexibility to build commentary and presentation space to present those subjects, add research, etc.
• Foreign language. The German letters would belong on deWS in the German form, and we would look to host the translations, and we would interwiki between the two.
• If there are scans of these documents that could be uploaded, then we would encourage that to happen to Commons, and we have special tools to display text and image side by side and we can help proofread them. (I will leave that discussion for another time)

So hopefully that you gives some thinking items, and we look forward to seeing how we can help, and it is not too much detail. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

References to Alexander Henry Haliday in British Entomology : Hymenoptera — pusblished as is or constructs?

Hi. Are the page like this like that as a published source or are they your constructions. If the latter, as I suspect, then we will need to move them to the Author: namespace. Happy to do this once I have a better understanding of what it is that the works actually are. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks for your continuing interest This page is a construct in the sense that only the Folios of John Curtis' British Entomology referring to Haliday and/or based on his Mss are included (by me).Other pages a vary I'll deal with those one at a time. Talk to you soon Robert aka Notafly (talk) 12:50, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. They are great builds and we can host them, however, they are in the wrong namespace, and we will need to move them to the Author namespace. We use the main for produced works. More info on our namespaces at Help:Namespaces. I will put the links here in a few minutes. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Templeton author page

I see that at one point that you added some publication data to the DNB article Templeton, John (1766-1825). This sort of data is ideal for the author page at Author:John Templeton, and what had been on the DNB article is now on the talk page for the author. We are very comfortable with research taking place in the Author namespace, linking to external or internal works, compilations, etc. Mostly all fair game. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Moved work to Portal:Index Librorum Haliday

I have moved your compilation to Portal:Index Librorum Haliday as it is not evident that this is a published work as per Wikisource:What Wikisource includes; our main namespace is only for published works, not for constructions. If we have something that is more of a specific subject as a compilation from a library or similar, then we put that into the Portal namespace. It might be worth your reference to Wikisource:For Wikipedians as that has some other basic information around how we manage data at the site. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:03, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Recent Works on the Diptera of Northern Europe

Are we able to do a little work on Recent Works on the Diptera of Northern Europe to align it with our other works. At the moment it is authorless, without source, links, etc. It is something that could do with curation. If you could find your way to do some curation, that would be magic. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:08, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

I have moved this page to your user namespace as well. If you tidy it up to a standard that is suitable for presentation, then we can move it back. If you require assistance, then please post at Wikisource:Scriptorium. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Moved work to user ns

Hi. Your recent addition does not clearly align with our scope, so I have moved it out of main namespace to user namespace. If you think that it should be moved back, then please start a conversation at WS:PD. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:25, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Pages are required to have a source, and to show that a work is not in copyright. {{no source}} and {{no license}} would typically be applied to those works in main ns in the condition presented. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:47, 13 June 2023 (UTC)