Wikisource:Community collaboration/Monthly Challenge/Nominations

Monthly Challenge

2022

  • Each month, the Wikisource community selects a few texts to proofread and validate.
  • The texts are featured for a maximum of three months with a few exceptions.
  • The challenge builds Wikisource's core collection and helps introduce new users to Wikisource.
  • Wikisource seeks to make free, scan-backed ebooks accessible to everyone.
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Suggest nominations below. When successful, the works can be added to a monthly data table (e.g. Module:Monthly Challenge/data/2022-05, or a future month) and they will be included in the relevant months' challenges.

2021 nominationsEdit

  • Add nominations at the end of this section via this link
  • For each nomination, please provide an author, title, publication date, link to the index and the reason why the work should be featured.
    • If you cannot create an index (and you are strongly urged to do so before nominating), please leave a full citation. Remember, Wikisource only allows works in the Public Domain in the USA.
  • Please create a separate section for each work nominated. This allows easier discussion and archiving of each nomination.
  • Re-nominations of previously stalled works is allowed if you think they will get renewed interest. There is a list here.

Dio's Roman History (series)Edit

Index:Dio's Roman History, tr. Cary - Volume 1.djvu These volumes have been on here for ages as well.

  • Oppose (temporarily) I'd like to figure out how we expect to handle parallel texts before we add any more of them. The last dual Greek/English text fizzled and St. Augustine's Soliloquies is a current parallel text (Old English/Latin). We can just proofread the English, certainly, but that really feels like a mistreatment of the work as published to me.
If promoting anyway, we'll need to choose 2 from this, USTS and Goethe, I think). Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 09:36, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

ShakespeareFan00's Adventures listEdit

ShakespeareFan00 compiled a list of important adventure novels that need to be worked through. I'm adding it here to formally nominate them to be run one at a time. Languageseeker (talk) 00:22, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

  Support dripping these in over time, but we should only have one or two "active" (i.e. being proofread) at a time, IMO. Obviously no limit on number pending validation. Related: can we think of any new-PD-entrants in this genre for PD day? Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 18:15, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Short update: We've made good progress in the Tarzan series. As far as I can see, after Tarzan the Untamed, only Tarzan the Terrible remains to be proofread of those of the Tarzan books currently in the public domain. I've gone ahead and started what will hopefully become a new series of proofread works, by adding Anne of Avonlea by Lucy Maud Montgomery for April.--Tylopous (talk) 07:16, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

2022 NominationsEdit

A work by Ethel SnowdenEdit

I nominate a work by Ethel Snowden for the monthly challenge. Either "The Feminist Movement" (see Internet Archive identifier : feministmovement00snowiala ) or "Through Bolshevik Russia" (see Internet Archive identifier : throughbolshevik00snowuoft ). Sorry for using IA links here if this is considered bad practice.

Additionally, we don't have an author page for this author yet and at least one of her works is listed in the page Philip Snowden, the page listing works by her husband. Tylopous (talk) 14:40, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with IA links. In fact, as long they are decent quality (not Google or DLI), they're often excellent scan sources. Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 17:04, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
Author:Ethel Snowden now created and a few indexes added. It seems there is quite a bit of conflation with her husband in various bibliographic databases, probably because of automatic things misunderstanding the (slightly ironic, considering her politics!) "Mrs Philip Snowden" credit on title pages.
I don't have a preference to which of these goes in, or, if both, which goes first, but   Support any of them, since we could do with getting at least one work onto Wikisource. Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 21:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
@Inductiveload: Another big thank you for setting up the author page. I've never worked on author pages before, so I was a bit reluctant to do this myself. Tylopous (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@Tylopous you're welcome. Don't worry too much about getting it perfect: you can just rough out any author page and others can fill it in if you've missed something: almost any author page is better than no author page. This isn't Wikipedia where there's a whole process to keep an article "safe" (in fact, I don't think any author pages get deleted, assuming the author did actually write something!). If you just keep an eye on pages you create via your watchlist, you can usually see what it you can do differently next time, if anything. Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 16:48, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@Tylopous   Support I'll put "The Feminist Movement" in for February. IA is my preferred source especially if the texts have the original color to them. Languageseeker (talk) 22:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
@Inductiveload Thanks! Languageseeker (talk) 22:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Could I suggest doing one of these in March? March 8th is International Women's Day, and the whole month is Women's History Month in a few countries. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:18, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
@Tylopous "The Feminist Movement" has been added for March. I'll see how the work goes and then probably add "Through Bolshevik Russia" at a later point. Languageseeker (talk) 02:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
@Languageseeker: OK! I'm already happy that you added The Feminist Movement this month. I plan to contribute to its proofreading. (Though I'm a bit busy with other things currently.)--Tylopous (talk) 18:35, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Help on Musical Notes Symbols
Page:Through Bolshevik Russia - Snowden - 1920.djvu/46 2001:4450:8145:7800:18B0:C5AB:4E1F:F676 18:23, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
For this, maybe Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help is a better place to ask.--Tylopous (talk) 19:07, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

A work by Booker T. WashingtonEdit

We currently have no scan-backed works by Booker T. Washington. Potential candidates here are Up From Slavery (IA), Tuskegee and It's People (IA) or The Future of the American Negro (IA) MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:58, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes, we definitely need to scan-back Booker T. Washington. I feel like Up from Slavery' might be a good start. Languageseeker (talk) 22:12, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

The Fable of the BeesEdit

Can someone check the copyright and upload it to Wikimedia Commons

Mandeville The Fable Of The Bees

This is not the page for requesting copyright information or asking for upload help. This page is for nominations of works to include in the Monthly Challenge.
In any event, the Penguin Books paperback edition of this translation should not be the first choice for inclusion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
2001:4450:8156:4900:18B0:C5AB:4E1F:F676, EncycloPetey: See his author page. There is a 1924 annotated edition (external scans (multiple parts): 1, 2) and the original edition (external scan) (called The Grumbling Hive: or, Knaves Turn’d Honest). 02:39, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Index:The story girl.pdfEdit

Another book by Lucy Maud Montgomery need to be nominated

  Support adding this for June. In May, we still have Rilla of Ingleside to work on.--Tylopous (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for your amazing work on these books. I'm going to run Lucy Maud Montgomery as a long-term series so that when one work is done another one is added. Languageseeker (talk) 23:35, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Index:First six books of the elements of Euclid 1847 Byrne.djvuEdit

This 6 books should be nominated not because they are easy, but because they are hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTyAbi5z47Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GY5blTTeSA

I think that these are important works, but they appear to be too challenging for the MC. Hopefully, someone will proofread them soon. Languageseeker (talk) 23:27, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
The index was created in 2009 and it needs commitment from the volunteers to finish it 2001:4450:8123:7E00:F922:187C:F72D:1085 19:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I think that this one might have too many graphics and complicated math symbols for a general audience. Sorry. Languageseeker (talk) 02:47, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
You are right but this Books have changed the world
and if anyone have problem they can find explanation in they link below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewir8jyohyc&list=PLrkQ3hzZrc4j9gT0z--_CiFzQLeVb32hQ 2001:4450:8145:7800:E880:8070:9433:1E76 22:50, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Two volumes of the Book of EtiquetteEdit

For March, which happens to be Women’s History Month, I’ll nominate these two volumes (Volume 1 & Volume 2) by Lillian Eichler Watson under the category Women writers. Apparently, the first volume was a bestseller. We also don’t have any works by this author yet. Ciridae (talk) 12:21, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ciridae   Support Languageseeker (talk) 21:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
@Ciridae Sorry, I forgot to put this in for March, but I'll put it in for April. Languageseeker (talk) 02:48, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
@Languageseeker: That’s okay, there’s no hurry. Ciridae (talk) 09:54, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

non-English worksEdit

Suggestions for future months to increase diversity:

I encourage one or two of these to be included each month (or similar selections) to ensure that not all our works are by US/UK authors, or are all US/UK literature. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:40, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey:   Support Diversity as regards countries of origin. But note that we can also achieve this in part by including works written in English by authors from, for example, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Canada. (We already have a Canadian work next month.)
From your list, my personal pick for next month would be Quo Vadis.--Tylopous (talk) 18:21, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Indeed, and we can even consider Welsh, Irish, First Nations and and African-American authors as diversity, even if the books are from the US or the UK. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:31, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Three suggestions:
1. There might be especial interest in The Triology works as they deal with Ukrainian-Polish history, e.g. Internet Archive identifier : withfireandswor00curtgoog .
2. For South Africa we might think about the works of Olive Schreiner e.g. The Story of an African Farm, Woman and Labour, Dreams etc.
3. We had the works of Rumi last year but dropped it due to it not being out of copyright then. (transcription project)
MarkLSteadman (talk) 00:12, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Very interesting proposals, thank you! I was not aware of Sienkiewicz's Trilogy. So let's put in Quo Vadis for April, which is as far as I know better known to English-speaking readers, and let's keep the Trilogy in mind.
This subsection is fast becoming a very useful source of information, which we can keep using for quite some months to come. Thank you all!--Tylopous (talk) 06:16, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Decline and Fall of the Roman EmpireEdit

  • Index:Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire vol 1 (1897).djvu - we have only volume I of this seminal work. It would make another good long-term work. Note that there are multiple possible editions, but we have none of them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
    @EncycloPetey: I believe this is an important work. Sure, we can definitely try the first volume; there are not many pages left to proofread. (The Appendix. Hmm, not really sure how I would format these braces...) I'll add the first volume for April. After that, I guess we just have to see how the work progresses. --Tylopous (talk) 18:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

John Locke - EssayEdit

And one of the most important philosophical works, which is not yet scan-backed: An Essay Concerning Human Understanding Internet Archive identifier : essayconcerning00lock . I'm not sure whether we have the complete work or not; it is very long. But the edition I've pointed to is a single volume and has very simple formatting. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: Undecided on this. Page 38 of the IA scan doesn't look like easy formatting to me. Also I was not able to determine how our version is related to the contents of the IA scan.
The IA scan contains An Essay Concerning Human Understanding+Essay of the Conduct of Understanding. Looks like our current version without scan is a full version of the first Essay, and that the page of the IA scan I mentioned is really an exception.--Tylopous (talk) 19:14, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
@EncycloPetey: I uploaded the djvu file from the IA source you linked to. It's the first index page I created; any comments or suggestions are welcome. For instance:
  • How to handle the fact that the new index page links to our old, non-scan-backed version?
  • How best to indicate that the djvu contains two separate works (also Essay of the Conduct of Understanding)? --Tylopous (talk) 12:33, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
For the first question, we usually add {{migrate to}} on the old copy if we plan to replace the old copy with the new one. But this is a work that might have more then one edition, so I would have the title in the Index point to a new title, like "An Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1853)". We can then turn the old copy into a redirect once the new copy is complete.
For the second question, we handle it just like any other volume that has more than one work: list it in the contents. We have many volumes here that are collections of short stories, collections of poems, or that contain anthologies by more then one author. There is no need to do anything unusual, but just link as we always do. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:13, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Note that there is also the 1695 3rd Internet Archive identifier : b30323873 and 1700 4th Internet Archive identifier : essayconcernin00lockuoft 4th on IA as well. The 5th edition (1706) is available from the ONB (external scan). If we want the first 1690 edition, it is in EEBO and I can see about getting a scan of that... MarkLSteadman (talk) 20:38, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
I looked at the 3rd edition earlier today and considered it as an alternative. But it contains more difficult formatting (sidenotes) and long s. I agree that the 1st edition could be valuable to have, also the 3rd. But if our aim is to get one version proofread completely, then the version mentioned by EncycloPetey is perhaps really the best to work with.--Tylopous (talk) 21:03, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
If you want a modern orthography edition, an option might be the version in the 1823 complete works which appears to be the standard collection of Locke until the recent Clarendon editions? Internet Archive identifier : workslock01lock Internet Archive identifier : works02lock Internet Archive identifier : works03lock . It's quite a long work and if we do want to proof additional works picking a complete works set might be a good idea and avoid the reproofing the work later when doing so. Mentioning it both to think carefully about which version we want and also to collect them together for setting up the versions page. MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:15, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
There are really many options, and I'm still undecided. I looked at the IA scan of vol.1 of the 1823, and it contains torn pages, see [1].
Project Gutenberg appears to have used the 1690 version, but with simplified layout (?)--Tylopous (talk) 06:57, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
The torn page is some errata on the TOC or addition added later on very weak paper: (you can see a little more in that HathiTrust version (external scan)) so it doesn't affect the main text. MarkLSteadman (talk) 20:19, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
The 1823 complete works edition would be good to have. I can work on uploading volumes from IA some time this week.--Tylopous (talk) 06:22, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Update: I have uploaded 9 of 10 volumes. Couldn't find vol 9 on IA.-- Tylopous (talk) 08:21, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Added vol 1 of 1823 edition for April ..Tylopous (talk) 18:01, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

The Fortunes of Perkin WarbeckEdit

Once The Last Man is completed, the next volume for Shelley should be The Fortunes of Perkin Warbeck Languageseeker (talk) 00:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Ancient Classics for the English ReaderEdit

I’d like to nominate this series of historical biographies published by William Blackwood & Sons. There are twelve books in the series, and seven of them are already proofread (some are even validated). The others listed below:

It would be good to have these remaining 5 books completed too. Ciridae (talk) 12:59, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

  Support in general. Unsure if we should start in May or June.Tylopous (talk) 16:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
@Tylopous: If May is not already completely full, it would be good if one of these are included. I suggest Caesar or Aristotle. Otherwise, I'm fine with waiting for June. Ciridae (talk) 04:41, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
@Ciridae: I added The Commentaries of Caesar for May. The works in this series apparently tend to be quite short.--Tylopous (talk) 18:18, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Good choice! Languageseeker (talk) 02:55, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Modern Library 100 Best NonfictionEdit

The w:en:Modern Library 100 Best Nonfiction list might be a good source for selections. It is a compilation by Modern Library of the 100 best nonfiction works of the 20th century. Some will not be eligible for inclusion because they are still under copyright, but the list would provide additional variety to our selections, in which works of fiction tend to dominate. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:08, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: Thank you. Yes, it's good to have a pool of nonfiction works to choose from. Other ideas I once had for nonfiction were: (1) A series of works under the heading "Investigative Journalism" (2) A chronological series of biographies of U.S. Presidents.--Tylopous (talk) 06:06, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
@EncycloPetey, @Tylopous: I've also found this website very helpful when selecting books. It aggregates some of the lists and then separates them by year. If you look closely, you can see that May's MC draws heavily on this list. In any case, I think that the Modern Library 100 Best Nonfiction is definitely something that we should target. As always, I hope that scan-backing these "important" books will help more users discover this site. Languageseeker (talk) 01:38, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Main StreetEdit

I keep finding great works of American literature that are not scan-backed. When The Jungle by Upton Sinclair is complete, we might follow it with Main Street (1920) by Sinclair Lewis. I've set up an Index page for the 1920 first edition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Staging for future monthsEdit

This is the staging area for the next challenge. Works are added to this list based on nominations, current long-term series or filling in missing topics. This list is not "official", it's just designed to make it easier to set up the data table for the next challenge more easily. Nominate works above. Remove works from this list if the nomination fails.

January 2022Edit

  • Works:
  • Shorts:
  • Series to be continued:
    • First Folio
    • Orley Farm
    • HG Wells
    • Philippines
    • US Treaty Series
    • Shirley
    • Sherlock Holmes
    • Middlemarch
  • Series to be continued, but may be stalling:
  • Series to be discontinued
  • New series:

Long-Term SeriesEdit

This space is reserved for nominations of a long-term series consisting of multiple volumes of an author's work usually referred to with titles such as "The Complete Works of X" or an encyclopedic work. Such nominations require serious consideration because they will require many years of work. Therefore, the edition proposed should be a definitive edition that does not constitute mere reprints and would make a substantial contribution to Wikisource.

Long-Term NominationsEdit

Current Long-Term SeriesEdit

  • Shakespeare's First Folio
  • Orley Farm
  • The Works of H.G. Wells (Atlantic Edition)
  • The Works of Thomas Carlyle (Centenary Edition)
  • The Philippine Islands, 1493-1803 (ed. Blair and Robertson)