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Again, welcome! Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:45, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

html5, <tt>, <kbd> and <code>

Recently you discussed some of the mediawiki changes due to html5. When I glanced through some of the reading about compatibility I read that we should be using <kbd> rather than <tt>. When I queried one of our more savvy css users he wondered whether we should just use <code> instead. Are you able to give some guidance on what is the preference, and the safest approach to use of these tags for our community? Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:56, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

The canonical reference is the HTML5 spec. It says that <kbd> is to be used as:

The kbd element represents user input (typically keyboard input, although it may also be used to represent other input, such as voice commands).

When the kbd element is nested inside a samp element, it represents the input as it was echoed by the system.

When the kbd element contains a samp element, it represents input based on system output, for example invoking a menu item.

When the kbd element is nested inside another kbd element, it represents an actual key or other single unit of input as appropriate for the input mechanism.

(https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/text-level-semantics.html#the-kbd-element)

On the other hand, the <tt> element is marked "obsolete" with the note:

Use appropriate elements or CSS instead.

Where the tt element would have been used for marking up keyboard input, consider the kbd element; for variables, consider the var element; for computer code, consider the code element; and for computer output, consider the samp element.

Finally, the <code> element is described as:

The code element represents a fragment of computer code. This could be an XML element name, a file name, a computer program, or any other string that a computer would recognize.

(https://www.w3.org/TR/html5/text-level-semantics.html#the-code-element)

I hope this helps! Cscott (talk) 19:31, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I seem to have lost the purpose of the question in my detail. :-( I had meant to target the question more about did their WMF plan to move towards intervening in their use as was recently done with <span /> etc. — billinghurst sDrewth 20:31, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see. No, we don't have a plan to force you to to change <tt> to <kbd>/<code>/... etc. SSastry (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)