IdiotSavant

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Again, welcome! Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:56, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

The Strange Attraction

The "Cover" is not transcluded, but more important;y, all chapter pages have Roman numerals in the page names. The numbering of chapters should use Arabic numerals in the page names. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I've transcluded the cover, moved all the chapter pages and updated the links. Anything else I need to do?-- IdiotSavant (talk) 03:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

You'll need to adjust the links to previous / next in the page headers, since the Roman numeral pages should not exist and ought to be deleted. That means redirects won't exist either. We susually don't want the clutter of redirects internally in works. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd forgotten the page headers; I'll get on that. IdiotSavant (talk) 04:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Fixed now. IdiotSavant (talk) 06:07, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

NZETC

Does this website archive documents using scans, or is it just the text of the original? I can't tell because the website is either not working right now, or blocks my location. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:12, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

There are scans as well as text, though they are not emphasized. See e.g. Chapter I of The Greenstone Door (via waybackmachine). I was not aware it was geoblocked; that may be a result of its takeover by the NZ National Library.-- IdiotSavant (talk) 22:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

As long as there are scans available, it will be a useful resource. But if a text does not have scans, then it's not a useful link for Wikisource. We decided to no longer host works from Gutenberg, for example, because they are secondary transcriptions. Also, if there is an important or significant work from New Zealand we do not have, and you can locate a scan, it would be good to nominate for the Monthly Challenge. We desperately need more NZ works. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd noticed. I'm actually doing a digitisation project for NZ novels, but focusing on things in the NZ public domain (so authors who died in 1973 or earlier), with an emphasis on recent works and (especially) things not available elsewhere (such as NZETC). So I'm scanning PD-NZ physical books and doing them Gutenberg style. Giantflightlessbirds pointed me at Wikisource as an option for works in the US PD, so I'm doing a little bit of work on here as well.

While the next book I do will probably be off-wikisource, I can think of several worth pursuing. The Tracks We Tread by G B Lancaster is apparently significant, and not available elsewhere. I'm currently going through Stevens' The New Zealand Novel 1860-1965 to find some options.-- IdiotSavant (talk) 22:57, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

I should add: I'm also wondering about serials, since there's a lot of them on Papers Past and Trove, but I'm not sure how wikisource does with importing scans from those sites.--IdiotSavant (talk) 22:59, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Templates vs html

Hi, for text size please use the template series {{smaller}}, {{x-smaller}}, {{larger}}, &c. in preference to the html tags. We've deprecated the tags because they're fixed size, while the templates are relative to the reader's preferred font size for "normal" text. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Proofreading Milestone

Hi, I've been watching the number of validated indexes quietly creep up for the last few months waiting for the next milestone to be reached. Colenso's explanation of the Tiriti just happens to be #6500. See Portal:Proofreading milestones. Thank you for bringing it in and pushing it along. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Bindery instructions

We generally do not transcribe bindery instructions. These are number-letter combination that appear in the bottom corner of the top page of a set of pages. They are instructions to the bindery about the sequence in which the pages are sown together after folding. They are not part of the work. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

I know; I mistook it for a page-number due to the different heading on that page. IdiotSavant (talk) 05:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Tussock Land

I've finally finished transcluding it, just before the beginning of next year. (my time zone is EST) Norbillian (talk) 19:47, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll push on with the validation then. IdiotSavant (talk) 21:54, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Monthly Challenge

Hi @IdiotSavant,

Just a quick thanks for helping with the rollover of the Monthly Challenge. As far as I am aware, your corrections (removing validated works and switching initial=not proofread's to proofread's) were all correct. For consistency with previous months, I removed the final=proofread's for some of the indices, but I don't think it was a functional change.

Thanks again (and keep up the good work!),
TeysaKarlov (talk) 09:58, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Poetry and the smaller template (or equivalent)

Hi @IdiotSavant,

In regard to some of the poetry on this page Page:Alice Lauder.pdf/82 among others, might I recommend one of two things.

Option a) is to instead wrap the entire {{ppoem}} in a smaller block. This would either look like {{smaller block|{{ppoem| ... }}}} for a poem contained on one page, or like {{smaller block/s}}{{ppoem| ... }}, then {{smaller block/e}} in the footer, and then {{smaller block/s}} in the header of the next page, and so on. Personally, this is my preference for applying "small" to poetry, as the block templates for font-sizing also adjust the line-heights, so that the gaps between lines aren't as glaringly large when each individual line of text is made "small".

Option b) is to instead use the stanza settings for ppoem, which use only single curly braces, and are placed on their own line above each stanza, e.g. {{ppoem|[line break]{smaller}[first stanza] ... }}. The output should then be identical to your current approach (if memory serves), without having to use {{sm|...}} on every line. So, if you can't be bothered changing previous poems in the work to all use smaller blocks, I recommend option b).

Hope that helps, and as always, if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 05:53, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks; I knew there was some solution (because someone had fixed a previous page where I'd done this), but I hadn't been able to find it in a quick perusal of the ppoem documentation. I'll try option b, unless I see stuff wrapping over a page. IdiotSavant (talk) 07:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

@IdiotSavant No problem.

P.S. On a page like this (Page:Alice Lauder.pdf/45), among some of the other poetry (but not all), you can also use the floating quotation mark template template, i.e. {{fqm|“}}, so that the quotation mark floats left slightly. Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 21:07, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks again! It looks like there's a lot of random poetry in this one, so I'll hopefully have enough practice for this stuff to become ingrained... IdiotSavant (talk) 22:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)