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Index:The New Forest - its history and its scenery.djvuEdit

When proofreading and validating indexes we include maps and illustrations. We also include page numbers in the footer area. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 00:25, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

I know, I know -- I guess I was trying to shortcut my way through the process. To be honest I wasn't expecting anyone to validate any of the pages of such an obscure book so soon. I am working my way through the book again (in a somewhat random order) in search of any other typos, and I'll add in any missing page numbers as I do so. Pasicles (talk) 00:29, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Pasicles, I had no idea that the book is your first transcription! On my part I just did what I knew had to be done. I validated and commented on what I had fixed. Well, no harm done - I hope I didn't hurt your feelings! Some people do hurt easily you know. Kindest regards and Welcome to your beautiful new home on English Wikisource. PS We excel in obscure books as much as we can.

  Respectfully —Maury (talk) 20:59, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Here is another way to handle large images that may not print out due to size.


You probably can already see the idea. An image is made any size but not too big for printing out. When a person hovers the cursor that person will see the text, "Click to enlarge" so then they can explore the details of the map. You can also place any other text below the image for printing out e.g. Map Of Mexico. It works for me. BTW, you sure do excellent formatting on a book to be new here. Kindest regards, —Maury (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I just wanted to be sure I hadn't broken some fundamental principle of Wikisource by missing out the page numbers. I have added one complete book before now (The History of the Roman Wall) which is where I gained practise in formatting a book -- but I didn't upload a djvu file or create an index file. For this current book (The New Forest: its history and its scenery)) I felt I really ought to do things properly! Thanks also for the advice on how to handle large images: I shall give it a go. Pasicles (talk) 18:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
You are very welcome. I was thinking about that image above sometime after I posted it and feel I should mention that you can place any text immediately below the image instead of having to hover it. Some people don't hover over an image but it's a habit of mine. Again, you certainly do excellent work for someone new here. Even now I cannot do all I have seen you do. I assume that you have had computer courses of various kinds in school. Kindest regards, —Maury (talk) 19:21, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
That's very perceptive of you, I did indeed have computer courses in school in the 1980s -- I learned how to program several lines of BASIC on a BBC Micro! :P Pasicles (talk) 19:41, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Tragedies of SenecaEdit

Thanks so much for working through Miller's translation of Seneca's plays. It was earlier this year that I discovered we didn't have any of Seneca's plays, and since these are the only extant Roman tragedies, I took it upon myself to transcribe a couple of them and set up pages so that others might come along and do more. So I'm very happy to see that someone has taken up the reigns and is filling that nasty gaping hole in Wikisource coverage.

PS - If you finish Miller, and would like to continue with the comedies of Plautus or Terence, I would happily set up an Index for one (or both) for you, as needed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh Hi, yes well I thought I would have a go at transcribing some of the works of Seneca. Remains to be seen how far I'm going to get yet, but managed three of the ten plays so far. :) Pasicles (talk) 20:47, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόνEdit

I see that on Author:Marcus Aurelius Antoninus we have an external link to "Τὰ εἰς ἑαυτόν". Normally, we do not include such external links among lists of works. I recommend setting up Meditations (which is now available following your page move) as a Versions page listing different English editions, and linking to that page from Marcus Aurelius's Author page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:21, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes that makes sense - the only issue is whether there are any other major works by authors called "Meditations", but I can't find any on here except a few minor poems and things. Pasicles (talk) 19:32, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
If there are other works by the same title, then we'd normally use the page to list all those works with that title, and make it a local disambiguation page, as we have done for Electra. We don't concern ourselves as to whether the works are "major" or "minor", but simply on the basis of whether we have them or not. Even encyclopedia entries with that title could be listed (if we have such items). See Help:Disambiguation for more.
You could call the Versions page something like Meditations (Marcus Aurelius), just as we have Electra (Sophocles). --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:38, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
Well, I've had another look - I can't specifically find anything just called "Meditations" on Wikisource. I'll use Meditations for now - it can always be changed at a later date. I'll set up the page. Pasicles (talk) 19:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


I was shocked to see from your work that we did not have an Author page for Persius. I have now set one up on Wikisource. There is also a shortcut (redirect) at Author:Persius. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I noticed this Juvenal and Persius text earlier today - it's been on Wikisource barely touched for ten years. I thought I would just get things going with it. Pasicles (talk) 00:55, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Additional note: The template {{smallrefs}} automatically sizes and formats the references list. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:59, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

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General categorizationEdit

I curious why you changed the more specific categorization for a more general one, and why you removed the {{populate}} template, since we still have no works written by this person. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:12, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

oh I don't know which category was better - its been in "Roman Empire authors" for the past five years. "Roman Empire" and "Roman Republic" denote two different time periods so can be more specific in that respect. But I really dont mind. I just thought I'd stick some articles there that's all. Pasicles (talk) 21:31, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
We have Category:Roman senators and Category:Roman consuls as subcategories, so perhaps we ought to have Category:Roman emperors? --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:37, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes that's a good idea. I'll go through category Category:Emperors and sort them out. Pasicles (talk) 21:46, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Right well - I made a start on it. Probably needs some more sorting out, etc. Pasicles (talk) 22:03, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

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Help identify a fontEdit

Can you identify the font used in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Arthur_Oscar_Freudenberg_I_(1891-1968)_letterhead_circa_1950.png I am trying to replicate it as closely as possible. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 17:14, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Yes the font used for the name is Coronet. 🙂 Pasicles (talk) 17:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Greek philosophyEdit

Thanks for the work you're doing to improve our coverage. Also, a few months back, I segregated Portal:Ancient Greek philosophy from Portal:Greek language and literature because there was enough to warrant a separate Portal for the philosophy. If you can give that Portal some love and attention, it would be appreciated. There all likely more than a few items missing, and the whole Portal could be better organized. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:54, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll certainly see if I can improve Portal:Ancient Greek philosophy when I get the chance. Pasicles (talk) 00:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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James StockdaleEdit

Hi, James Stockdale is fairly popular in Stoicism circles and has two documents which are effectively public domain that talk about his experiences and discuss Stoicism, largely how Epictetus affected him. Are you able to put them up on here? (I can't work out how to do it). You seemed to make easy work of those poems by Aratus so thought you might be interested in helping with this too :)

--Zikalify (talk) 03:49, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I'd be more than happy to do that, but "effectively public domain" won't be good enough here, I need a clear reason why they are public domain, so I can add the appropriate template. The first document might be public domain, but the second document is an article that "first appeared in the May 1995 issue of The World and I magazine" reprinted "with the kind permission of News World Communications, Inc.". Documents produced by US military employees usually are public domain (AFAIK), and over on Commons there is a "PD-USGov-Military-Navy" template, so the first document might be public domain, but it's not clear to me if it counts in this instance. Pasicles (talk) 15:12, 30 October 2019 (UTC)